THE ACCRESCENT™ PODCAST EPISODE 203

[00:00:00] Hello, welcome back to the Accrescent Podcast. I’m your host, Leigh Ann Lindsey. Before I introduce today’s guest, I wanted to share a really exciting update. I have been working on creating a number of different resources for my clients, my audience, all of you. I work with clients every single day who are experiencing cancer and or chronic illness, and while a big part of how I’m supporting them is looking at identifying and helping metabolize potential emotional contributors to illness.

Another big part is helping navigate the present day turbulence that is so common and oftentimes unavoidable with a really severe diagnoses. And so I created this guided meditation playlist so that my clients, all of you have access to immediate acute support during times of turbulence to help [00:01:00] settle your nervous system, tune in, metabolize heavy emotions so that you can ultimately experience more peace, calm, and clarity.

I’m so excited about this for two reasons. One, for all of my established clients, even though there’s such potent, impactful work we do while we’re in session, there are so many hours of their day and week that they are outside of session, experiencing life in real time. And so I wanted to be able to provide even more resources that they can use outside of sessions.

To support tending to that inner self, but also there’s so many of you who aren’t working with me one-on-one, may never work with me one-on-one, but I still wanted to be able to provide really impactful tools and resources for you guys to access. So check the show notes below. There’ll be a link to access that free guided meditation playlist onto today’s guest, Anna Finck.

She is a [00:02:00] wellness architect and lifestyle designer who is pioneering an innovative path in the wellness space. She’s created a body of work called Embodied Wellness, designed to transform the body, mind, and soul. Embodied wellness is both science and spirituality, art and alchemy. In essence, it is where wellness and personal growth collide.

Anna supports clients through a transformational, embodiment and empowerment journey. One that she lived herself after stepping away from medical school due to personal and family health crises. Ana committed herself to an unconventional, long-term and complex study of wellness. She healed her own hormonal imbalances, digestive issues, and reproductive health conditions.

Naturally, despite the odds and lack of evidence, Anna is devoted to supporting women in reconnecting to their bodies, reclaiming their health, remembering their power, and realizing their [00:03:00] potential. So with that, please enjoy this conversation with Anna Finck. Well, Anna, welcome to the Accrescent Podcast. It’s so great to have you today. Thank you so much, Leigh Ann.

It’s a pleasure to be here. I, we were just chatting quickly off air that I think this is gonna be such a kismet conversation in listening to some of the other interviews you’ve done. I, what I love about you already so much that I’m excited to get into is how much you blend together in your, in your art, in your practice, in the way that you work with clients.

This is something that totally sets my soul on fire because I just think no, even though there’s so many modalities and they all have a place, no one modality is gonna be the end all be all for someone. And so the more we can blend together and the more we can find practitioners who blend multiple things together, I think it’s just really, really powerful and wonderful.

But anyways, with all that said, welcome. Thank you. Thank you. It’s such a pleasure. And thank you for your time and thank you for sharing that, that [00:04:00] reflection truly means the world to me. I feel like I am a multi-dimensional woman and I was looking for someone when I was going through my health crisis.

Was focusing on multidimensional wellness, and I ended up creating that. And it’s, when we’re ready, the Oracle appears. When we’re ready, the signs appear. The teacher appears the way appears, but we’re so complex and it’s not one route for anyone. It’s one way, which is your way, but it’s not one right way.

A hundred percent. And then being able to refine that for each person you sit with and go, I, I know these 10 skill sets or tools or whatever we wanna call them and you, we don’t need all those 10 for you. We need these three. And just being able to make it really bio unique to them. So with all that said, though, I, you have such a, I think, powerful origin story and when I was listening to one of your other interviews, it.

Really lit me up. And so I was hoping you’d be open to sharing a little bit of the journey [00:05:00] thus far and, and what got you to where you are today. Absolutely. So I’ll go back in time, quite a few years. I think it all started when I was probably two years old and my mom was pregnant and I remember there was one day I walked into the bathroom and she was crying.

There was blood in the toilet. I didn’t understand what was happening. I understand she just mar Miscarriaged and there was such a depth there. There was such a deep sadness, a confusion, a pain, a fear that was instilled in me where I knew for so long that I wanted to be a mother. And being a bomb is something that is so dear to my heart.

And so seeing that being this inception point along my journey, I never knew how it would impact me until later. Mm-hmm. Well, fast forward two years, my mom was pregnant with my little brother and was in childbirth, and he tied a knot in the umbilical cord and so he cut off his air supply and she had to continue to birth him while he was no [00:06:00] longer alive.

And after that, it was such a painful moment in time in my mom’s life, in my father’s life, in my life. And I. Started to feel like I was trying to fill a void that my little brother’s death had left. And I went into the fixer, the people pleaser, trying to make everyone happy. And I’m okay as long as you’re okay.

And these patterns and these trauma bonds established at that time. And I felt a lot of pain on my own and deeply desired siblings, but my mom’s pregnancies and she had multiple miscarriages. She even almost lost me at four and a half months in utero. Wow. When she went into an early labor. And so I, in essence, am her miracle baby.

And I didn’t know how this would all play out until later when I was on the path to become a medical doctor. And I was in a pre-med curriculum. I was studying and shadowing and working in different healthcare settings. And it struck me how we’re so focused on the symptom and fixing the symptom instead of the root, and [00:07:00] looking at lifestyle and Hippocrates quote, you know, let your food be thy medicine and thy medicine thy food.

So why have. Strayed so far from that truth. In essence, it is simple, but we get to reconnect to the simplicity and to nature and align with that. And so I was so con confused as to why we were not speaking about the mind, body, and soul and the spiritual essence of wellness. And so when I applied to medical school, I realized that I didn’t feel like it was for me.

And I got an acceptance letter and I felt heaviness in my body. And that was my first encounter with Interoception where I realized my body’s always speaking to me and the heart is sending signals before the brain can even interpret ’em. And that set me on this personal growth journey. And along that same time, I came back from Chile, south America where I’d been living.

And my mom was navigating health, health issues like chronic illness. She received multiple autoimmune conditions as diagnoses and. I [00:08:00] refused to believe that her diagnosis was her destiny. Mm-hmm. And so I decided that medical school was not for me. I was looking at naturopathic medical school, but I just poured into the literature.

I remember I went to the library and I got 12 books. And I went home and I poured into the literature on functional medicine, nutrition psychology, eastern medicine, western medicine, medicine. I got so much information and then realized it was so much more. And along that same time, I started to notice my own symptoms flaring.

I had always had digestive issues, PMS, acne, all these symptoms. I had normalized and I became aware of how we’ve normalized so many symptoms that are common, but just because they are common does not mean they’re normal. And so then I was so set on healing naturally because I lost my period for three years.

I lost my libido. I wasn’t ovulating. I was dealing with fertility, health issues. I was dealing with so many symptoms. And I was told, oh, you’re like the peak of health. You’re like the picture of health. And I was like. I wanna have children and you’re asking me if I can, like when I’m gonna have children, [00:09:00] and I don’t even know if I can right now.

And it was just this, this paradox of like, you look healthy, but what’s going on within is not evident. And so just because someone looks healthy doesn’t mean that there’s not an underlying imbalance. And I just started to become so aware that I didn’t wanna medicate myself. I didn’t wanna take synthetic hormones to fix what was going on.

I wanted to heal at a deeper level. And so I didn’t have evidence. And I became the evidence, I paved my own path. And that led me to integrative nutrition health coaching. And that led to yoga teacher training and breath work facilitator programs. And it went from there. And I studied a transformational life coaching program and learned NLP and EFT and all these somatic modalities to support nervous system regulation and personal transformation.

And I created a body of work I call embodied wellness, and it’s about wealth, wellness, learning. Architect wellness, architecture, and lifestyle design. So it’s really bringing art to wellness, [00:10:00] intentionality, and making it for the multi-dimensional human, not just the one size all approach. It’s very curated to each individual’s body blueprint, what I call, and your human design, for those of you who are familiar with human design mm-hmm.

And your desires, your intentions, everything. And it’s about you becoming your own best wellness architect and lifestyle designer. And through all of that, I. Regained my period. I regained my health and healed my adrenal fatigue, my digestive health issues, and I really feel like that health challenge was the catalyst for my growth.

And now it made me so aware of how many other women are experiencing infertility, reproductive health conditions, digestive health issues, all of these things that have been normalized, that aren’t normal. And I’m focusing more on the preconception era for women to prepare for a foundation of radiance in their lives and their pregnancies and their future.

Hmm. There’s so many things I wanna highlight in this one. The Wellness [00:11:00] architect, um, lifestyle designer. It completely changes. And in the interview I listened to with you, you talked a lot about verbiage and the words we use and the energy they carry, the unconscious narratives they carry. Right. I’m, I work with the unconscious.

I work mainly with cancer and chronic illness patients, so that’s a huge part. And we’re talking about this all the time, not just what are we consciously aware of, but what is going on in the unconscious? How are we communicating these narratives to ourself consciously and unconsciously? But I love that because I do think, especially when you’ve been in a state of chronic illness for a long time, it can start it, you know, those narratives can kind of creep in socially, externally from people, but also just from being in it so long of, I have to do all these things because I’m sick and.

So then it becomes Asana because I had cancer in 2020 and I never want that to come back and I [00:12:00] have to da da. But when you phrase it that way, like the wellness architect, the lifestyle designer, it’s this, oh my God, it it almost sound, it does sound fun and it sounds like this thing I get to do and I get to be the architect of my life.

And that means health, but that also means the spirit, the mind, the emotions, the energy, all of it. But it, it also, I think that terminology is incredibly empowering. Architect, designer, what’s beneath that is a creator. And I have the power and the autonomy to curate and create a lifestyle design that really aligns for me.

Absolutely. And you said it. It is art. It is recognizing that your body is the temple for your soul. And it’s to be honored. It’s sacred. And so infusing ritual into your day instead of wellness routines, wellness rituals, and [00:13:00] knowing that you are the artist, you are the art. Your health is the art. Your life is the art.

What do you wanna experience? What do you wanna create? Mm-hmm. And I see that a lot, especially with the chronic illness community. It’s like you’ve manifested your symptoms, you manifested your illness, and we have to understand that that’s not the truth. We live in a world where we’re exposed to so many different toxins, pathogens, heavy metals, confounding variables, stress that impact us.

And for those of you listening, you did not manifest your illness. You can heal, your body can heal. It’s so resilient. And what I’ve come to find is like with the architecture, it’s, it’s building codes. Like you have a blueprint for the house, you have your body blueprint for your health. You have the building codes for the home and the architecture of the home and the design and the creation of the home.

But you have the body codes for your health. And so many of us are unknowingly coding our bodies for survival rather than coding our bodies for creation and [00:14:00] radiance. And so when we understand that our symptoms are simply signals and we can decode them, we can recode our body for radiance. Yeah. It’s only ever trying to communicate mind, body, and spirit.

And to that end, that’s why I think it’s so important when I talk with my clients, because we are in my work, really focused on what might be the emotional, spiritual, energetic, generational contributors to what I am experiencing present day. And we have to hold that space for, there can be very real physiological contributors.

It’s all, it’s all working together, it’s all interconnected and, but really in so many ways. Befriending the mind, body, and spirit, getting back into relationship with the mind, body, and spirit of, it’s only here for my highest good and to protect me. It’s not here to sabotage me, to break down. Uh, every single [00:15:00] thing I’m experiencing is a message, is a form of communication.

And so in a lot of ways, sometimes I’ll say that I’m a translator. I’m helping translate what your mind, body, and spirit specifically is communicating of what’s going on in the unconscious. But even just flipping that narrative because it can be really hard. And having been there, having experienced cancer myself and chronic illness myself, I get it.

When you wake up, you know, and you’re in chronic fatigue and chronic pain for years, it can be. We have moments of frustration. We have moments of fear and anger and confusion, and all of that is allowed to, we’re not trying to emotionally bypass, but maintaining that relationship with myself of, Hey, I’m so frustrated right now, Bodi and I get it, and I know you’re only here to protect me, and I’m still really frustrated and I’m working with you to figure this out, but there is so much love for you even while you’re in this place.

Yes, [00:16:00] yes. And the body responds to that love. Mm-hmm. You know, our bodies are comprised of more than 60% water and Dr. Masato Moto and his research with water and the crystals that form with certain frequencies, or the incoherence that forms of other frequencies of lower vibration or certain music. It’s like your body is always striving to heal, to balance.

And sometimes these symptoms aren’t actually the body attacking itself, but the pathogen, the underlying root of what’s going on, and knowing that your body loves you and is. Really healing in the best way that it can given mm-hmm. What is present? It’s so beautiful. I have done so much research over the years into different nervous system tools, techniques, modalities, and honestly, the Apollo neuro wearable is the one that I come back to again and again.

It’s powerful, practical, and so easy to integrate into everyday life. [00:17:00] What I love about Apollo is that it works through gentle, soothing vibrations. You can wear it on your wrist, your ankle, or clip it to your clothing. You don’t have to stop what you’re doing. I wear mine while working. I wear it while I sleep, and I love how their results are backed by real science.

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It can support an uplifted mood. Apollo is something I use every single day to support my nervous system to make sure that I’m giving my body gentle safety signals all throughout the day to help me be more resilient, to help me recover faster, to help me [00:18:00] sleep deeper. And it’s something that I recommend to clients all the time because it’s so gentle.

Non-invasive is backed by science and is so, so accessible. Click the link in the show notes below and you’ll get $60 off your Apollo or use discount code The Accrescent for $60 off. There’s so many different places we can go, and so if there are some things you really wanna touch on that I’m not getting to please bring them up.

But there’s two things that are kind of top of my mind right now, and I’m sure more rabbit trails will come up as we get into it. The first is, I am so curious to hear a little bit more of what a client session might look like. You know, in an acute session, but also as you’re working with them long term, because you blend so many things together.

And even for me as a practitioner, I’m like, oh my goodness, what does that look like? Are all of those pieces coming together in every session? Is it sort of like we’re bringing them in as we need them and then I really wanna [00:19:00] spend some time on what it means to be embodied? We, we’ve been in a little bit of a theme lately on the podcast.

I had an intuitive, you know, a guest who’s kind of an intuitive expert on talking about how to help us tune back into our intuition. And I think this idea of the embodied person is also built in there. How can I tune back into my body and the signals it’s sending me in that interoception? But let’s maybe start with, ’cause that we can really sink into, let’s start with just what do client sessions look like?

And maybe you can reiterate some of the different techniques and education and modalities that you’re bringing together in a client session. And maybe also. What people tend to typically come to you for or how, what you typically like to work with. Absolutely. So we begin with the physical foundation.

Now, embodied wellness is all about focusing on your physical, energetic, mental, emotional, and spiritual health and wellness. And so we start with the physical. The physical is the most dense energetically, and [00:20:00] it’s the foundation. So once you begin to hone in on the foundation of a home or of any structure, you create that solid foundation and everything else starts to flourish.

I know for me, I struggled for a while to try and heal my symptoms through mindset alone, but I wasn’t giving my body the physical nourishment and support that it needed. And once I started to doing that, to do that, the alignment in the mind really. Came through. Mm-hmm. So for the first session, I always began with the Body Blueprint breakthrough session.

And this is my signature session. I’ve had so many people have this session alone and they’re like, one session with Ana changed my life. This one session transformed everything for me. And the, the testimonials are extraordinary. It’s like people who weren’t able to lose weight for years, who had adopted this story, this belief that they just can’t lose weight and this is the way their body is, the weight began to melt away.

And so different case studies, not case studies, different transformations are available when, when the client [00:21:00] is ready, they come. And it’s an empowerment model. So it’s about remembering you are reconnecting to your body ’cause you’re the one who knows. So that first session, we really focus on your lifestyle, your body.

What are you eating, how are you hydrating? Do you meditate? How does stress impact your life? How are your relationships, your living environment? What kind of things are you applying to your. Physical and then we delve more into the energetic. So I typically follow with a human design session, and for those of you who are not familiar with human design, human design is a vast scientific system that is truly the science of differentiation, and it combines the Kabbalah, the Hindu chakra system.

Quantum physics, the eing, astrology genetics. It’s vast and it reveals who you’re here to be. Your energetic blueprint, your soul blueprint, how you’re designed to communicate, relates, make decisions when you’re in alignment, when you’re not in alignment. I use that a lot for women and men when they’re feeling misaligned or feeling mm-hmm.

They’re not connected to their intuition. [00:22:00] This helps so much with how we think and perceive ourselves and how we engage with the world around us. Career decisions, redirection, really connecting to our purpose. I always say that when you reconnect to your body, you reclaim your health, you reclaim your power, and you remember your potential and realize your purpose.

You know, it’s like it’s so much more than just healing your physical body. It’s about becoming who you’re here to be. So, and I’ll have a wellness architect session, so it’s a wellness architecture section, which entails more of a check-in to fine tune their wellness plan and their design, and then. It just kind of varies.

I’ve done a lot of somatic breath experiences where we’re regulating the nervous system, bringing in some quantum healing modalities and energy, and other times it’s focusing on frequency and postural alignment too, because how we stand, how we sit all impacts our physiology and how we feel about ourselves.

I bring in Luis Hayes me work, I bring in [00:23:00] emotional freedom technique and the power of words and intention and aromatherapy with essential oils. So every session is so unique and we just meet the moment. I know one client came to me and they were so focused on losing weight and reducing inflammation, and by the second session we were going to do the human design, but something was coming up and I could sense that there was more, and there was something coming up with their partner, their wife, and by the end of that session, this individual’s six, six years old, for context, they’ve been married for.

Maybe 40 years. And there was something coming up and I could tell like there was something deep here. And by the end of that session, this individual is like, I don’t know that I even wanna be married. I don’t know that this is the right relationship for me. Hmm. And so what we uncover through these different avenues can be so diverse, but it’s truly, it’s truly the journey.

Yeah. I know. I feel like what I hear beneath all of that is, and correct me if I’m wrong, but [00:24:00] you’re helping individuals identify the misalignments and the misalignments could be with food, with lifestyle, with. Um, supplements and the misalignments could be with career and how I’m living my human design or not, and the relationships I have and my purpose and my spirituality.

So it’s, it’s across the board and I just think it’s so powerful, again, to be able to have someone who has such diverse training be able to speak to the potential misalignments in so many different facets. Thank you. It’s so profound. It’s so profound. And I didn’t realize that until later where, you know, I initially felt shame about not pursuing my medical de degree.

Mm-hmm. But now I realize that I was just building my own personalized PhD for the last seven and a half years and curating my own path. And so it is, it’s like it’s honoring each individual where they are, [00:25:00] but reminding them of their true power to change. That the change in power is not outside of them, it’s within.

And when we create that alignment and reconnect it blossoms. Yeah. Well, how quickly things can shift. Because again, the body’s not, nothing is happening I believe without reason. Right. There is a reason for all of it and sometimes it’s, it can be a little nuanced and tricky to figure out those pieces. But also when we do, and some of those pieces click into place, shifts and health and healing and abundance can come in so much easier than I think we’re led to believe.

Absolutely. And so much quicker than I think we’re led to believe. Yes, you’re absolutely right. Okay. Let’s talk a little bit about embodied. Okay. I wanna get into this. I even see this becoming more and more of an important thing of so many of the individuals I work with. We talk a lot about, you are so intellectual and [00:26:00] that’s amazing and you understand intellectually so much of what’s going on, so much of why you are where you are and you are more than just.

A brain, your a body, your a spirit, your energy. And so we need to be engaging with yourself in those ways. And so a lot of the time we’re going, let’s, let’s not worry about logic today. What does this feel like? Where do I feel it? What imagery comes up when I tuned into that? What are the narratives that surface, even if they don’t make sense to my logical mind?

But to that end, I think the point I’m making here is there is so much, I think unconscious communication that comes through the physical body. You know, attention in your stomach, a tightness in your chest, a constriction in your throat, a tingling on your skin. And it’s so easy for us to go, huh, how weird, how random?

And really, when [00:27:00] we have the, the, the support and the tools to go, nothing’s random. There’s communication in everything. But can you speak more to that from your lens? What does embodied mean and maybe what that journey looks like to start to develop more of an embodied relationship with ourself?

Absolutely. Well, I love that we’re diving in here because you are truly the representation of an embodied woman, and it’s all about your journey. Like look at where you’ve been and look at who you’re walking with now. Mm-hmm. I always felt there was this disconnect with medicine. Like I would learn about something in a textbook, see it in a lab, and then in person with patients and client settings.

I hadn’t experienced that, and so I couldn’t speak to it. And I was like, well, this isn’t the textbook symptom presentation. Like, what’s going on here? This feels like I should know this, but it’s not presenting in this way. And so I feel like our experience [00:28:00] becomes our credentials. Mm-hmm. Our embodiment speaks louder than our intellect and our knowing.

The mind. There’s body knowing your body wisdom. Your body is so intelligent. And what I love so much is that the heart sends 10 times the amount of else to the brain than the brain sends to the heart. And so we receive through the heart. We understand such depth through our heart and feel so much, but then we go to the mind and try to analyze instead of just let the energy and sensation pass.

Right? Emotion is simply energy and motion. And really when we begin to connect to our body, it’s like, okay, we’ve been trained to disconnect from our bodies. And I always say that this is by design because our body is a source of our power. Mm-hmm. So when we have a population of people who are not connected to their bodies, they’re living disembodied, disconnected from their body, they’re living disempowered, they’re disconnected from their power, and people in their power threaten the status quo.

Yeah. [00:29:00] Yes. So now it’s this time where embodiment leads and we’re feeling this more. We’re energetic beings. We’re really radiating emitting this s electromagnetic field from the heart that we pick up on. Even before a word is spoken, we feel more than we even know. And so we’ve been trained. If there’s pain, avoid it, numb it, medicate it.

Oh, I don’t feel good. Take a pill, take a pill, do this. What is actually going on? Mm-hmm. We don’t sit with that discomfort. We’re adverse to the discomfort. And so for people, wherever they are on their journey, it’s like, okay, what does my body need today? It’s just you can place your hand on your heart and take a breath in for five counts out for eight, and just notice what you feel.

Your breath is the one part of your autonomic nervous system that you have complete control over, and it’s one of the most powerful practices for embodiment and reconnection to my body that I’ve found for myself and for so many. And just breathing more intentionally will [00:30:00] shift your physiology, will shift your emotional, mental, spiritual states so fast.

And so for me, I start with something tangible like the breath. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think there’s such a, it’s funny because I also use a technology in my work called Evox where we can measure emotions in the voice and we output balancing frequencies, but it’s called voice mapping. We are literally mapping the emotions in the voice.

But I also think, I love to say pattern mapping. I in depth psychology, which is all about the unconscious, where I’m very, very interested in patterns and. I just think when we look at things with that eye, there is so much more that can come out of that meaning, you know, I, there was a period of time where my low back, I would slip a disc every year, like three years in a row around, roughly around the same time.

Not exactly, but roughly around the same time. And it could be so easy to just go, oh [00:31:00] my gosh, this is so weird. This is so random. I can’t believe this keeps happening and, and move on and do my holistic treatments and not think about it any deeper than that. But for me, doing some of that deeper, maybe pattern mapping and unconscious mapping, something I realized is my low back always goes out when I feel trapped.

And it could be in a different thing. It could be trapped in financial patterns, it could be trapped in a relationship, it could be trapped in something. But as soon as I noticed that, it became so empowering on both sides of it, meaning. You know, if my back goes out again, I know that that’s now a cue for me.

Oh, I am feeling really trapped. That’s a part of why this happened. That’s a part of this communication. Can I do some inquiry around that and see what those inner parts are that need some tending and needs some expansion around their narratives, but also vice versa, knowing that if what I’m tuned into first is I’m feeling trapped, [00:32:00] knowing that if I don’t listen to that long enough, here might be a physical symptom that comes out of that.

And so if I’m feeling trapped, being proactive with tending to that part of my psyche so that it doesn’t need to scream at me through a disc slip. Yes, absolutely. And it’s like when you start to see things by design, like nothing is ever an accident, right? There are no mistakes. Like the universe is just trying to get you to pay attention and how brilliant you are uncovering.

It’s because I felt trapped. And the body speaks so loudly because when something’s not aligned, we’ll feel it in our emotional and mental states. But if we’re not paying attention to those, it goes into the denser layers. Mm-hmm. Into the body. You guys know I have loved symbiota supplements for years. I had to jump on and share with you guys a couple brand new products.

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’cause I think the body, mind, and spirit is just like, ah, they’re listening. Okay. And even if everything isn’t resolved yet, they’re listening. Yeah. They see me finally. And at the same time, I’m wondering if you also sometimes notice that people then feel an uptick in symptoms. Not because the symptoms actually got worse, but simply because they’re paying attention.

They might go, actually my pain feels worse. But it’s really just because they’re looking at it and sitting with it with it in a deeper way. It’s so interesting because it’s that light of awareness that once you see something, you cannot unsee it. And you know, David Guillem, who teaches the Kabbalah, he speaks about how it [00:36:00] feels darkness.

Like it feels like there’s so much darkness and it’s darkest when there’s actually the most light. Because as the light comes in, it illuminates all the darkness. So as the awareness pours into the body and those areas that were feeling discomfort and pain, they’re illuminated and it feels amplified.

Mm-hmm. But it’s not a forever situation, like where you are doesn’t determine where you’re going. Mm-hmm. It’s just part of the path along the journey. And it’s preparing you for what’s to come. Like every challenge is a catalyst. Yeah. What does this look like for you in a day to day being embodied, interception, tuning into those sensations, and what does it look like to then?

Be in relationship with those sensations and things that we’re sensing, right? Because it could be something where we’re starting to be more embodied. We’re starting to sense what’s going on the, the pains, but also even the sensations, right? I, I know people who are like, [00:37:00] when my intuition hits, I get like a tingle down my left arm, you know?

Yeah. But then there’s a message that maybe we’ve now attuned to, and then how we respond to that message is, I think the next step of this embodied design that we’re trying to step into. But I guess the point, the question I’m kind of asking is, especially when it comes to maybe sensations, we might not be thrilled with.

Like, oh, I’m tuning in and there’s just all this tension and tightness in my neck. I think our next step might be, okay, I tuned in. That’s great, and now like let’s distract from it again and get back to the day. So what does it look like to first tune in, but then engage and be in relationship and act on what we’ve tuned in with?

Absolutely. So I always love to remind people that they are not the pain. They are not the experience, the emotion, the thought, the feeling. They are simply the observer. It’s like you’re looking at a vast blue sky and you see all of the [00:38:00] sky, and then you see the clouds passing. Well, imagine that you are the blue sky, the observer, the one that’s holding it all, but you’re not attached to any of it.

The simple truth is that the clouds are passing through. They don’t define you, but the more we hold onto them and anchor into the discomfort or resist something, the longer it persists and the more discomfort we feel. And so I am human. I experience these moments all the time, but for me, when it’s something emotional breath always helps me to come back.

Tapping, moving my body is huge. You know, when you move your body, you complete the stress cycle, you complete the emotional cycle, reconnecting to your body. We need to move this energy out of our system. And if we’re stagnating, stagnating, and thinking about it and ruminating, we’re amplifying it. And so what can you do when you feel something uncomfortable is like, okay, notice it.

Acknowledge it. But what we try to often do is like, it’s bad that I’m feeling this way, and I think I learned this at a young age, as many of us do. It’s like, oh, [00:39:00] be’s crying. Give it a pacifier. Oh, don’t do that. Here’s a cookie. Shh. Be quiet. Be a good girl. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, like, you’re too sensitive, you’re too emotional.

Don’t feel that you have to be happy to be loved. And so those messages that we received around that, it’s like, okay, it’s okay to feel this pain. And when I go into that place of allowing myself the space, I come out feeling the joy. But if I try and just avoid and feel joy right away, we’re bypassing it.

We’re not going to the depths, but it’s knowing that the depths lead to those heights that we love. Yeah. And I like to say it’s, we don’t realize it, but it’s just another form of self dismissal. Right. And I actually think that’s repeating a lot of the wounding, many of us experienced in childhood, which was a lot of dismissal, gaslighting, any number of things.

And so we’re. We’re recreating wounds. We’re treating ourself the way we were treated, and not intentionally, it’s unconscious. And that’s not to [00:40:00] say right in the realm of nuance. That’s not to say that I give this example sometimes of, you know, I might be sitting down, you know, getting ready for a client session with 30 minutes before they show up, and I get hit with a wave of grief because something’s happening heavy in my personal life.

And yes, I’m not saying that I’m supposed to then go, well, I’m just gonna start sobbing now and my client’s gonna come in and I’m gonna be sobbing. Or sometimes we do have to go. Usually what I’ll do is, Hey Leigh Ann, I see that I so wanna sit with you in this, and I can’t sit with this really deeply right now, but I promise I’m gonna come back to you later tonight.

But what’s so powerful about that versus just being like, well, can’t sit with that. Shove it aside. Focus. No, no, don’t feel that way. Don’t feel that way. You’ve got clients. That is so surprising actually, how deeply settling and soothing that quick little dialogue with myself is, rather than if I just try to like [00:41:00] shove it away and distract.

Now there’s a wound of that dismissal. My inner self is like. Wow. Like she doesn’t care. She’s just pushed me away. I have to just bear this like I’ve born so many things alone and it actually makes it worse, and then the rest of the day is such a grind. It’s such a fight. It takes so much effort and energy to stay present in the way I would want to versus actually like looking at dead in the face and saying, I see you and I maybe can’t be with you right now, but I’m.

Totally gonna come back to you later in those moments that we can’t, right? Yes. Yeah. And that’s so beautiful because that recognition and acknowledgement, it’s like that dismissal serves as an act of betrayal. And how many times have we betrayed ourselves, betrayed ourselves for another, or been betrayed by another?

And so just that acknowledgement of like, I see you. Mm-hmm. Hard, I know it feels hard. I know you’re feeling this, so much is coming up right now [00:42:00] too for clearing. Like we’re not just feeling our own pain and fear and emotion. There’s the collective, there’s the ancestral, the lineage that was. Those be before us who weren’t able to process and didn’t have the tools, the truth, the technology that we have now to really support ourselves in releasing.

So I love to also ask like, who does this belong to? Is this even mine? Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know Dr. Dane here? You’re familiar with his work? No, I don’t think so. You have to read the book. Body whispering. Dr. Dane here is incredible. He’s the chiropractor and he says that 99% of what we think, feel, experience, all of the emotion, all of the, like these things aren’t even ours.

Yeah. And he is brilliant in what he’s created and how he approaches the body. Like ask your body, body, what would you like to wear today? Your body responds. You already know what your body wants. So ask, speak to your body. Your body holds the wisdom, your body holds the codes. And [00:43:00] speaking to ourselves, like how are we speaking to ourselves?

Are we speaking life and encouragement and love into ourselves? Or are we speaking. Hate and fear and criticism in ourselves. I know for me it was the latter and I’m still practicing, like still loving on myself because it’s not something that we received in society. It wasn’t something that we were taught by our parents.

And that act alone is like everything is frequency, energy, and words carry a unique energy and frequency. And are we speaking in our, speaking to ourselves in a way that supports who we’re becoming, supports our healing, supports our confidence, or in a way that undermines ourselves? Yeah. You know, it’s funny, it’s making me think of like a fun little experiment for all of us to do would be like, how many things can I notice in my body today?

And, and it could be something like, oh, I’m sitting here and my low back’s getting a little tight. Okay, write that down. And Oh, I’m eating. Um, but I’m really not that [00:44:00] hungry and yet I’m eating anyways. Um, and oh, when I was talking with that person, my right eye twitched a little bit and not even trying to like translate it or understand it, but just how much can I notice today?

And just as an experiment, you might find at the end of the day, you’re like, holy shit, there’s so much happening. Oh my God, yes, yes. That I had no idea of. And maybe you get into a little bit more of a practice of that and over time you do start to see patterns like interesting. My right eye twitches every time I talk to that person.

Huh. What might that be about? And that’s so interesting. Um, you know, my, my low back, ’cause it could be easy, for example, like it could be easy to go, well, my shoulders always get tense because I’m on the computer all day. But then you might realize. Actually, my shoulders really only get tense when I’m doing this type of work on the computer, when I’m in these meetings at work.

But the rest of the day it’s actually pretty fine. But as soon as I get in those meetings, [00:45:00] ooh, that tension comes in real quick. I just, I love that. I, I think I wanna challenge myself to do that too. And just see how much you can notice. Same. Me too. And I think it’s, it goes back to like, okay, hello body, acknowledging it.

Hi body. Oh, thank you. I see you, whatever it is. And then when we say like, I see you, hello. And acknowledge it. Validate it. We don’t have to make it wrong, but just like, oh, I see you. And it just shifts. Yeah. Well, I just see like there is so much safety that settles in the body because of that. And if, if we think about it in those terms of a, you know, a little kid who’s afraid and is trying to come up to you and explain their fear, if you don’t let them speak.

Share why they’re afraid. And you just immediately jump in with, you’re fine. It’s okay. You’re good. Don’t worry about it. They’re not going to trust you. Because they’re like, how could you possibly know? Because you haven’t even heard why I’m afraid. And so I think they’re, what I just see time and time again is [00:46:00] just the act of witnessing.

Not even trying to change anything creates such, begins to create such a deep sense of trust and safety with ourself. And talking about that home and that foundational blueprint that is such a core facet of it. Do I have trust and safety with me? And what I see is most of us don’t. Because we are unconsciously bypassing and dismissing ourself and ignoring ourselves all day long.

It’s so, it’s so, it’s so, it’s sad and it’s not true. It’s not how we’re designed to live. Mm-hmm. But it was programmed into us by design. We all know we need to stay hydrated, and yet it’s still something that most of us struggle with. And for many of us, it’s not because we’re not drinking enough water, it’s because we’re not getting enough electrolytes and without replacing them.

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Am I being pushed towards this thing because it’s [00:49:00] aligned for me? Or is this fear, Ooh, I love, okay. I love that you ask this question because Yeah, continue. Well, to, just to give context, I, I think we all experience that in different ways. I experience that sometimes in different ways, but I’m particularly thinking of some of my chronic illness and cancer clients because there, there’s often a lot of urgency that’s put on them.

There’s often a lot of different choices sometimes that are in conflict. One doctor’s saying, eat this way. Another doctor’s saying, eat that way. And they’re both telling you, if you don’t do it this way, you know you’re not gonna heal and you’re gonna continue to get sicker. One doctor saying, do this surgery to remove your organ, or else you can’t heal another doctor saying, don’t you dare remove that organ or else you can’t heal.

And it’s like, I see this all the time, very conflicting messages, and I think it can be really hard to cut through the fear. To be able to sense what is actually aligned for me. I totally [00:50:00] understand that there is so much polarizing information, so much conflicting information, so much misinformation, and I think it’s realizing, connecting yourself so you know what feels true to you because mm-hmm something that feels true will feel light in the body.

Feel good in the body. It’s like, Ooh, that’s true. Like even if it’s like truth that doesn’t feel good, you just like, you have this grounded sense of like, yeah, that feels true. Whereas if it’s not yours and it feels like fear or it feels like, Ooh, this is pressure. It feels very ungrounded to me. It feels heavy, it feels contracted.

I, my body even leads back when something’s like a yes for me, my body moves forward and so fear is something, okay, I’m gonna wind this in here, but fear is something that I have been contemplating for a while. Mm. Because I have noticed on my journey, there have been moments where I felt so much fear and I have interpreted that fear to mean I am on the wrong path to go back, to stay safe, to not go forward, [00:51:00] that it’s a bad sign.

I actually came to find out. That my human design motivation, if you’re familiar with the motivation Yeah. Of human design is fear. So I am designed to walk with fear. Fear’s not gonna go away. It just is here to show me that I’m on path. It’s here to show me where to go. So now lean into that resistance, lean into that fear, because everything I desire is on the other side of fear.

Another thing I love about fear is that it’s same frequency as excitement. It’s just fear is excitement out, oh my God, this is so important. Yes, yes. Fear is excitement without breath. And so when we’re doing something new, we’re finding our way outside of our familiar comfort zone, out of the predictable norm, into our growth zone, into our edges of this is unknown, but there’s a field of potentiality possibility here.

Like anything is possible. The quantum field exists in the unknown, but we have to be courageous enough to walk with the fear of not knowing. Yeah. And having that [00:52:00] certainty of it’s all going to work out, but you take that first step. I, I love this. Two things I’m hearing in this that I wanna expand on are, one, I think it’s a really good point that just because there’s fear doesn’t mean we’re on the wrong path, because I also think it could be interpreted that way, right?

Yeah. I am about to have this surgery for cancer and I’m really scared. That must mean it’s not right for me and I shouldn’t do it and I should avoid it. Um, or whatever it might be, right? Um, because I think everyone’s journey is different For some people’s surgery is absolutely necessary for others, it isn’t for some, sometimes, whatever it might be.

Yeah. Whatever the interventions. But it’s okay to go. I, it’s so funny, I just wrote up an email from my audience that, um, like grief and gratitude can coexist. Fear and hope can coexist. And I see this so much along the health journey that, so I just, I think [00:53:00] that’s a really important point to make. Just because there’s fear doesn’t mean you’re on the right path, but being able to sense, where am I making this decision from?

And so to that end, what I hear in what you’re saying is we each need to become intimately attuned to what does fear feel like in my body versus what may be. Alignment and knowing, and truth feels like in my body and not just in like a very, very specific way. It might be like when I have fear and I’m very visual and imaginal, so I tune into the somatics and then I often tune into the imagery.

And so for me it’s like when there’s fear, I, I get like that kind of illit ease in my gut, but the imagery that comes to me is actually like kind of a, a leaning back, a slowing down. And then this kind of like shaky as if my whole body was shaking even though it isn’t actually. And when I get that sort of sort of [00:54:00] somatic and then visual sensa sensation, I know it’s fear and being able to settle and go, okay, so where am I making this decision from?

And am I, am I saying yes to this surgery? Because this fear is pushing me into it. Or am I able to kind of settle and go when I tune into it, what does that truth feel like? And when I think about, I’m using surgery as an example, but when I think about not having surgery. There’s such a settling, there’s such a knowing, there’s a, a lightness and ease that comes in.

But I do find, and I think it is such an important point, um, for me, the, the difference between fear and even excitement is the urgency piece. Yes. When I’m in a knowing, even though I’m like, oh my gosh, this is it. I can’t wait to get started. There’s still this like steadiness of great, and I don’t even need that urgency because it’s going to happen as it’s meant to.

But when I’m in fear, there’s this like, kind of, [00:55:00] you know, mildly manic, frantic energy behind it. It’s completely frenetic. It feels very ungrounded, very destabilizing. Yes. I, I feel that and it’s like, am I walking in faith? Or am I walking in fear? And I know for me and my mom and so many on our healing and health journeys, it’s like holding that vision and faith that I am healing.

That where I am right now does not determine where I’m going. And on the way to radiant health, on the way to healing, we go up and down. Sometimes healing doesn’t feel good. We’re cleansing our body and so we’re releasing toxins, cleansing the body of pathogens and different things that are affecting us.

But as they cleanse, it’s like the emotions come up, the discomfort comes up, the sensation symptoms flare. And so we start thinking we’re getting worse. Mm-hmm. When actually part of the healing. And so what, what I’d invite everyone to realize is that sometimes it feels like it’s getting worse and it feels like it’s [00:56:00] not working, but that’s part of the healing.

And so can you have faith? Can you have trust even when it feels like there’s so much that you could. Just disregard or discount that trust. Yeah. And I do feel like I have so much empathy ’cause I think it’s hard to answer and there is no one size fits all answer. ’cause on the other end of the spectrum, I, I think a lot of my work, especially with the cancer and chronic illness, is helping people discern what is the aligned dec decision that’s not coming from that place of fear.

And I, I think we’re very good at that, you know, helping them get that clarity. Um, and to that end, sometimes it’s on both sides of the spectrum. Sometimes it’s, I wanna stop this protocol because I’m overwhelmed and tired. And when we tune in, we go, but this really is what’s right for me. And so I’m going to acknowledge this fatigue and see what I need to do to be able to keep [00:57:00] going.

And sometimes it’s the reverse. Sometimes it’s the body, mind and spirit saying, this is way too intense for me. It’s making me sicker in a bad way. My body’s asking me to do a little bit less. I don’t need to be hitting things so hard. And to that end, like you and I can’t give a one size fits all of how to discern that for yourself other than I think, I think really the biggest thing is that felt sense when it’s right for you, you can tune in and go, what does this feel like?

When I imagine continuing doing this protocol, I feel a deep resonance in my body, but that fatigue is there and we can go, okay, yeah, that makes sense. There’s fatigue but it’s what’s right for me versus when I, and I do this all the time again ’cause I’m so imaginal, I picture, I picture making the decision.

Yeah. And then I imagine what that feels like in my body. So I picture, for example, maybe ceasing the protocol and how that feels in my body is even though a part of me is like, huh, okay I have so much more time ’cause I don’t have to do all these [00:58:00] protocols. I get this like uneasy, icky feeling. And that’s when I know, okay, that’s not what’s right for me.

And so that’s, that is at least my strategy for one of the ways I, I start to sense. But anyway, it just really like an abundance of empathy. ’cause it can be hard, especially when you’re in the thick of it. Well, and especially when you’re navigating a system that has. Been so disembodied and disconnected us from our power thinking that mm-hmm the doctors are the ones to tell us what’s right and not tune into our body.

And that embodied knowing. And so it can feel like that pressure of like, well, I don’t trust myself, I don’t trust my own knowing they know best. And then it’s that frenetic anxious energy of like, I don’t know what’s best, I should do this. And I love what you do is connect to that vision. And is this in alignment with the vision I hold for my health, for my life?

Like, is this in alignment with my healing? I think a lot of us disregard the body’s technology to tell us what is true and what is not. Mm-hmm. And, and the [00:59:00] body. You can command, like use a command. I like to bring in command so you can put your left hand over your abdomen, which you wanna get into the spirituality.

Like your abdomen, your belly button is a Stargate. And so you can put your left hand over your abdomen and just say, body, show me your power. Hmm. And breathe. And start to feel your power. And then you can say, body, show me. Is this in alignment with my healing? Is this an and like, show me what truth feels like in my body.

And then breathe. Right. Breathing after you make that command really helps ground the energy, but also give you that clarity and that knowing. And if it feels unclear, you can always say Body, show me it even more powerfully, more clearly so I can feel it. Mm-hmm. And these commands help the body respond and it deepens our connection to our bodies, to our truth, to our knowledge.

Oh, I love that. Oh, I’m gonna do that. Yeah. Yes. That’s a beautiful take home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can I, do you have time to [01:00:00] go over just a couple minutes or do you need to, unfortunately I don’t, but I was wondering if we can do the human design conversation another time. I’d Oh, yeah. A hundred percent been with you.

And like, we could even bring your chart. What is your human design? I’m a, well, I, I’m a manifesting generator and I always mix it up. I think I’m a four six profile. You’re a four six. Okay. So, yeah. Okay. Let me see. Um, I love it. I love it. And I’ve gotten, it’s funny, I’m just, recently I’ve started thinking, I think I might wanna do a, like a practitioner course on this because it is so insightful and I find with clients, like it just brings so much into it.

So, but to that end, like I, I really love talking with people, multiple different practitioners of human design or facilitators or architects of it. Yes. Because everyone speaks about it a little differently and has their own flare. And so I think it’s really fun to get to hear someone describe it differently and how they use it.

So. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah. Well, I will make sure everything is linked in the show notes, but just [01:01:00] so the audience can hear it before we jump off, where can they find you? What’s the best way to get in contact or learn more? Absolutely. So you can go to my website on a think.com. That’s A-N-N-A-F-I-N-C k.com, and there is a link to book a speak with me call now.

I know when I was going through my health crisis, I was looking for someone like me who was. Into all the mind, body, soul, wellness, and multidimensional modalities to support me. And so I just felt like if I could speak with someone about what I’m navigating, that would help me so much because I could opt in for an ebook.

I could do this, or I could, you know, but to really speak with someone about my unique situation and what I was experiencing felt like, ugh, I feel safe. I feel seen, I feel supported. So I’d encourage anyone who felt this pull this, call, this ping to book a call there. I have an Instagram and it’ll be linked in the show notes, but come connect with me on Instagram.

I share on there [01:02:00] quite a bit. I am so here for you, just supporting you on your journey to creating radiant health. Because we each have codes, we’re coded for radiance. And so it’s time for you to become your own best wellness architect and design the life that creates radiant health that you desire, that you deserve.

I love it. Thank you so much. My pleasure. That was absolutely wonderful.