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Podcast Ep. 201 Kim Rogers- A Deep Dive Into Modern Parasite Cleansing

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Kim Rogers – A Deep Dive Into Modern Parasite cleansing

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Leigh Ann welcomes Kim Rogers, a wellness expert with over 20 years of experience in Western medicine. Kim shares her personal journey of overcoming severe health challenges by adopting a holistic approach, leading to the founding of RogersHood Apothecary and the creation of the bestselling Parafly Cleanse Kit. The discussion covers the prevalence of parasites even in first-world countries, common mistakes in parasite cleansing, and the importance of a comprehensive and supportive approach to detoxification. Kim emphasizes the necessity of understanding and maintaining overall body health through regular cleansing, proper nutrition, and supportive herbs. She introduces various products from RogersHood, such as the Lymph and Purify kits, explaining their benefits and how they differ from other products. The episode also delves into the emotional and psychological impacts of parasites and highlights the need for ongoing research and better testing in the medical field.

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[00:00:00] Hello, welcome back to the Accrescent Podcast. I’m your host, Leigh Ann Lindsey. It has been a while since we have had an expert on to talk about parasites, so I was really, really excited to have Kim Rogers on the show, especially in the integrative holistic medicine world. We know just how prevalent parasites can be, even in a first world country, and I think the more conversations we can be having around this that aren’t creating more fear and paranoia, but are helping us just understand in many ways how this is a natural part of life and how we just like our pets and animals have to kind of attend to this part of our health on.

A semi-regular basis, and so to introduce you all to Kim, Kim Rogers is a seasoned wellness professional with over 20 years of experience in western medicine. She has authored numerous [00:01:00] medical publications, contributed to national allied health certification tests, and provided valuable insights as a member of medical advisory board.

Kim’s journey in the medical field took an unexpected turn with her own health challenges. In 2019, she embarked on a personal quest to strive for a more holistic and natural approach inspired by her own healing. Kim founded Rogers Hood Apothecary in December of 2021 and invented the globally known bestselling Paray cleanse kit.

This kit consists of high quality, handmade herbal tinctures, targeting unwanted parasites, worms, candida, heavy metals, and toxins. While promoting wellbeing, Rogers Hood gained widespread recognition after Kim’s personal results about parasites went viral on TikTok and Instagram, gaining millions of views and followers crowning her the Worm Queen, with a commitment to transparency and quality.

Rogers Hood aims to empower individuals to become their own [00:02:00] patient advocate. This was such a fantastic conversation. We really do cover a lot of different topics in this talk. We talk about why parasites are a concern. Even though many of us live in first world country, we talk about how we are getting exposed to parasites in a first world country.

What she sees many people, kind of the mistakes they’re making when it comes to parasite cleansing, what the Paray cleanse kit is, and how it’s different from other parasite cleansing products out there. And also just what to expect if it’s your first time ever doing a parasite cleanse. What to expect if you’re more in maintenance mode with parasite cleansing, how that might be different.

So we cover a broad, broad range of topics, and Kim was kind enough to give all of us a discount code to use for anyone who wants to try any of her products. I’ll make sure that is listed in the show notes below for any who want to go find it later. But the [00:03:00] discount code is Lee Ann 10, that’s L-E-I-G-H-A-N-N one zero.

So with that, please enjoy this conversation with Kim Rogers. Well, Kim, welcome to the Accrescent Podcast. This is gonna we’re I, we’re already both like giddy for this conversation. I can tell. It’s gonna be so fun. We were just talking off air. There’s like, there’s kind of like a flow I wanna take us through for any who are new to this conversation of parasites, but I think the, the place we have to start is your personal story.

How you even got into this space and how, as you already said, off air, it, it saved your life. Yep, it did. It was, um, I was spiraling down and uh, in the field we call it circling the drain. Mm-hmm. And I was circling the drain and my husband and I knew it. We didn’t know how to get me healthy and we actually quit our, our [00:04:00] lives.

Uh, he. Had a career and I had a career, and we left our career, sold all of our belongings, our house, and we had a piece of recreational property out in Hoodsport, Washington. And we moved us out there, just me and my husband to build a log home, just the two of us, so that if I didn’t heal, he would have something to do.

He would be mortgage free and debt free, and he would be able to grieve. Mm-hmm. And so I’m always thinking ahead in life and I really wanted to know what was wrong with me. I was very ill. I could show you a picture of how sick I was. I was very sick. Um, to give everyone kind of a context of who I am, I come from Western Medicine.

I’ve been in it since 2004. I hold two healthcare degrees, valedictorian in both of my degrees. I ran 25 healthcare colleges. I authored medical educational books. I wrote curriculum. I [00:05:00] served on advisory boards. I wrote national certifications and parasites was the furthest thing from my studies.

Completely. Yeah. So I also had stage four endometriosis, beginning stages of cervical cancer, and my health just declined after 13 surgeries and a hysterectomy. They could not get. My health under control. After 20 years of me being in Western medicine professionally and personally for my own chronic illness, I decided to exit out and figure out what was going on with me on my own.

So my husband and I started researching how to treat endometriosis like cancer, and we started looking at mushrooms. I started taking Turkey tail and lion’s mane five grams a day. I started taking my aki, I just threw the kitchen sink at it when it came to herbs and I was doing pretty good in 2019 is when we exited our lives and went out and started living [00:06:00] in our travel trailer on our property, and really just like encompassing everything around us with our log home build and just really trying to figure out what was going on with me.

And so in 2021. I was better, but I wasn’t really great. Mm-hmm. And my doctors pretty much abandoned me at this point. They were like, there’s nothing left we can do for you. You can’t have any more surgeries. This is your life. Oh. And I thought, what? Like, I’ve been like with you guys for a really long time.

I moved to Washington for my surgical team and you’re just giving up on me basically. And so my husband and I really felt like let down and 2020 had hit. And I live in Washington and I’m not part of the agenda. And so I really just needed to figure out what was going on. So in May of 21, may, June, I was on TikTok.

I have a TI had around 10,000 [00:07:00] followers ’cause I talked about mushrooms and I showed our log home build and um, someone I scrolled and I came across this gal who said she almost on a alive herself over worms. And I was like, what are you talking about, girl? Do you almost unli herself? Yes. Yeah. She’s like, my mental health was so bad and I just decided to do this parasite cleanse.

And she said, I feel so much better. Hmm. And it just sparked something in me in those moments. And I thought, okay, five years ago, at that time, I thought I had parasites. I thought I had pinworms. I brought it to my surgeons. They all were like, no, you don’t have that. You’re an adult. We live in a first world country.

You know, all the gaslighting. Totally. And just like the one narrative that they’ve been fed and never questioned. Yeah. Because it’s not something they read. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Or know about. And so they don’t ever wanna go outside of their box. Mm-hmm. And so I. Ordered that one [00:08:00] para parasite cleanse. And um, within three days I saw a roundworm, pinworm and flukes, and the pain that I had had on my right side, that was an indication I needed surgery again, that I couldn’t have was gone.

Hmm. And I have not stopped since that day. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I mean, such a phenomenal, phenomenal story. Yeah. I, I wanna be careful too, ’cause I never want to like poo poo anyone in a certain profession. I think Yeah. Most people really are out there doing their best with Yes. Full hearts. And we have to be able to acknowledge where there’s limitations.

Yes. And look elsewhere. But I, what frustrates me often is that. They kind of go, the narrative that comes from conventional medicine often is, well, we don’t know what this is, so there is no solution. Mm-hmm. Rather than, from the education I’ve received, I don’t know anything else to give you, but go look elsewhere.

Yes. [00:09:00] I wish that was, at the very least, more of the approach to it. Agreed. Because I come from western medicine. Yeah. You know, like this is my jam. I’ve been in it 20 years and I taught it and I don’t. Think that the majority of people in western medicine are maliciously doing this. Mm-hmm. I believe because I’ve been in it, that there’s malpractice.

Mm-hmm. And we do need western medicine to save our lives. It’s not here to officially hold our hands and heal us though. And that’s up to us. And that’s what my platform is, is being your own patient advocate. And if you go to the doctor and they frown upon what you’re saying. You are okay with that. You just know you have to take that power and go and do a lot of things on your own because they’re in a box.

Mm-hmm. They can’t go outside of that box for so many reasons. Mm-hmm. And so it really is, as a human, your responsibility to do a little bit extra research. I didn’t know about [00:10:00] Turkey tail and how you should take five grams a day to break down tumors and they give it to patients that are on chemo meds.

And I didn’t know all of that coming from Western medicine. I had to go and research and just figure out kind of the, these things on my own. And I was, I’m fortunate because I have that medical mind. Right. And you know how to kind of research and go through the material and find what’s maybe valid or not so valid, you know?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I think that’s why I’m speaking on it so heavily over the last few years after going viral on TikTok, uh, four years ago in July of 21, 1 of my, the video that I said, oh, I’ve never dewormed myself. It within two hours had a million views. Oh my gosh. And it officially has like 10.6 million views.

And across the board at, um, for a few years, I had 40 to 50 million views a month. Oh my God, Kim. I know. That’s when I started a business. Yeah. [00:11:00] Like I, like after three months of doing this, my husband’s still building the log home. I’m still self-healing. We’re like in the trenches now with like social media and, um, I started a business because I was talking about other people’s products, so much about deworming.

Yeah. That it became kind of overwhelming and I would spend eight, nine hours a day talking about other companies. Mm-hmm. And I stopped and I was like, okay, why don’t I just start my own? Why don’t I start working on that? And I’m pretty fast. Yeah. So most people, it would’ve taken years. It took me a month.

Yeah. Oh, I, I believe that dedicated, you know, I believe that I can see that in you already. You know how to shake and bake. I can tell. Yeah. No one has time, not when you’re chronically ill and you’re looking, you know, I was looking, I also, and I know words are powerful, but I also am the chronically ill category, and I’m chronically healing all the time.[00:12:00]

And so I also want what’s only best to put in my body. And so that’s really what made me decide to start my own company so that I could. Forage the herbs or, um, ethically source these herbs, which is what we’ve done at Rogers Hood with our kits. And just be able to give education to people. Like all of my knowledge is free.

All my eBooks are free. The only thing that’s not free is a hundred dollars kit. Yeah. And so everything else I do is free and I’ll pay to go on certain things because I want that information handed to everybody. So this really is my life purpose and I feel like it’s just knowledge that needs to get out there more for people.

Yeah, completely. Oh, I love that. So we’re gonna, just for the audience, probably towards midway through, we’re gonna get into Rogers Hood a upon theory and the different the, the Paray kit, the new lymph kit. I’m excited to talk about each of those. I do think the place to start, though, is a little bit [00:13:00] more on parasites in general.

That way if anyone is new to this, they’re not totally out in the woods. And so I think a starting point is where, where and how are we getting exposed to parasites? Because the common phrase is, we live in a first world country. Our water is filtered. So there’s no way that we can be getting exposed to parasites.

And I think that might be the first question for a lot of people who are new to this conversation is, what do you mean, how can I possibly be being exposed? Well, we had contaminated water in Hoodsport. So, um, a little backstory is I actually have mold, lime, and parasites in my body. So being exposed to the parasites, the nematodes that were in our water, I already had parasites in my body.

So it created a co-infection and additional issues. Mm-hmm. So when I say this, that our water is contaminated in our country, it wasn’t the only way that I got the parasites. Mm-hmm. [00:14:00] And, um, but it is a way to get the parasites. I’ve tested our water in hoodsport independently, it went to Mexico. And I’ve also tested, I live in Seattle now.

Um, and I also tested the water here and it tested positive for nematodes. And come to find out that our country doesn’t test the water for nematodes, which are physical worms. Mm-hmm. So our water came back positive for larvae of roundworm. And then most people know about the water with like giardia and crypto.

I also had crypto. Because I lived in the outskirts of a rainforest, which sitting water creates crypto, spr and parv, which is parvo, which kills puppies and can shut your organs down. Mm-hmm. Which is part of what was happening to me in the end stages of Lyme. Oh my gosh. And so it really is kind of a serious thing when you find out you have a protozoa or you have a nematode.

It depends on what’s going on in your life that can affect it and. Create a [00:15:00] chronic illness because of it. And it more than likely isn’t just your root cause. Mm-hmm. But it is a root cause. Mm-hmm. And so for me that was a big one. Um, I also ate a lot of salmon. And salmon is huge for parasites. Fish is a huge thing for parasites.

Okay. Okay. I already have follow up questions. Yes. I’m gonna like pace us outta this ’cause so many fo quick follow up. So one, I do think for the audience listening with the water piece. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah. By the way, my par, my ex-partner, we were together eight years, is a master water specialist. He designs water treatment systems and he could verify everything you’re saying.

Mm-hmm. That unfortunately the water is nowhere near as clean as they make it seem to be, including chemicals and all these different things. Pharmaceuticals, et cetera. But I, I can already hear the audience going, well, hang on. I’m, I’m getting water from my tap. I’m not seeing worms in it. What are you talking about?

Right. But they’re microscopic. Yes. That’s the point, right? Yeah. And I’ve had doctors say, no, no, no. We do, [00:16:00] we do colon scopes all the time and never see anything. They’re invaders, man. They’re in our blood. Our tissue in our muscle. And when someone goes in for a colonoscopy, they’re not looking for movement like that.

In fact, I saw something questionable during a surgery of mine, and I asked what that was. But because they’re not trained with the naked eye, nor are they really looking for that in a colonoscopy. They’re looking for polyps. They’re looking for abnormalities. They’re not really looking, and they’re kind of dug themselves deep into your tissue, your muscle.

Because if you think about what we’re eating with protein, meat, protein, that’s what we’re eating. Mm-hmm. We’re eating. The pig, and we’re eating the cow and we’re eating the fish, and that’s their blood, their tissue, and their muscle. And that’s where it’s found. So we’re human, we’re animals. We’re warm-blooded.

Yeah. And so that’s where it’s at. And it’s just a matter of. Knowing Exactly. You have to cook your food. Mm-hmm. You cannot have it [00:17:00] raw. Mm-hmm. Um, there’s 10,000 square in a, in one square inch of a salmon can be up to 10,000 parasite eggs. One square inch. You’re out there raw dog in the sushi, you know, just cleanse.

Just so you guys know, it’s not fearmongering. You just have to know, like, right. I think what’s wild about all of this is that other countries know about this. Right. And, and it’s commonplace. It’s not taboo, and it’s not, oh, you’re, mm-hmm. You’re so dirty and unclean that you need to cleanse. It’s just a part of life.

Yet we are, why do we think we’re, I know this sounds kind of crass, but why do we think we’re different from dogs? We also are an animal consuming. Raw plants and fish and animals. Why do we think that we’re somehow different that we don’t also need to cleanse our body? Yeah. Every now and then pet owners know that the vet tells them to deworm their dogs and cats every so often.

So in my opinion, that’s the number one way to get a paras is from your pets. Yeah. [00:18:00] And I had dogs. I had the same parasite as my dogs. I wasn’t good about deworming. My dogs, they would go outside, they would go poop. They’d step in it, they’d come in. I’d do my best to clean it up, and I would do my best to clean up if I accidentally stepped on it.

But they’re microscopic, right? They’re in their paw. They hop on the bed, you lay, you know, like, and you’re licking. Face. Yes. And nose. Yeah. Those lovely animals. But you know, it’s just, this is natural and we’re the best host. So the parasites are always wanting to be in the human because we are the best.

We’re, especially nowadays, because we’re, we sit around a lot. We don’t eat great. We eat the food they love, they love processed food and sugar. And that’s why you crave it. Mm-hmm. When you have a parasite, that’s why you crave it after 7:00 PM because one, they’re nocturnal creatures, so they’re keeping you up all night long.

So if you have insomnia, you should definitely do a cleanse. I recommend three to four times a year no matter what. Other [00:19:00] countries do it like Mexico, twice a year minimum with synthetics. Mm-hmm. We’re just never done it and we’re so exposed to all these environmental toxins mm-hmm. On a daily. So I just recommend that we should be doing, being proactive versus reactive, you know?

A hundred percent. And I feel like people that definitely crave sugar and I was shook ’cause I crave salt and that’s, that’s a sign of a parasite and I had no idea for years. Wow. Yeah. So, okay. For clarity here, if we’re cooking our food thoroughly, like if you’re cooking your salmon, that is killing those protozoa or the eggs.

Mm-hmm. Larva or whatever they’re called. Yeah. It’s so gross. Okay, so cooked. Cooked food is good. Yes. Yes. Cooked food, no raw, especially if you’re going out of the country. I mean, even if you’re in this country, like I don’t eat raw produce in this area ’cause I know the water’s contaminated and they’re just using that water to clean my produce.

Mm-hmm. Which is what I did. I was doing [00:20:00] my due diligence and cleaning my produce and all I was doing was just contaminating it with parasite water uhhuh. Oh my God, yes. That was one of the questions actually, that people had submitted. ’cause I do know raw foods is one of the ways we, yeah, we get it. Even when it says that your lettuce has been triple washed and it’s like nice and packaged in that, you know, plastic box, um, it can still be exposed.

And so someone was asking, how can you clean them? Is there a way to clean raw fruits and vegetables that will get rid of whatever’s on it? Yes. And I do recommend washing some of the produce that says triple. Um, I have some videos where I show, it says triple I washed it and it was dark brown water. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. There’s bacteria, salmonella, like, I mean, it’s just, we can’t trust anything. You, you have to be diligent in keeping yourself healthy as much protection as possible. So [00:21:00] I actually recommend two steps when I clean my produce. The first one is a soak, and it’s two cups of white vinegar, a half of a lime, two tablespoons of I like Baja gold sea salt.

Mm-hmm. And distilled or filtered water, a gallon of it, and you let it soak for five to 10 minutes. It’s a biohack as well, because the Baja sea salt is actually remineralizing your produce. Hmm. While cleaning it with the acidity and the alkaline, and it just really creates this environment that is inhospitable and they’ll wanna come out of the produce.

Mm-hmm. Then after I’ve soaked it for five to 10 minutes, I rinse it. Then I use a, the ozone bubbler. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I ozone it for 10 minutes. And that bubbler is a hundred dollars and it’s an ozone machine as well. So you get to actually utilize it in more ways than just soaking your produce. I use the [00:22:00] ozone water for my teeth.

I have lime, so it’s in my mouth. Mm-hmm. And I’ll use the water pick and I’ll ozone the water and I’ll drink some ozone. But it’s just another protection. And, and also removing anything that maybe my soak didn’t remove. Uhhuh you’re trying to eat to nourish your body and you don’t wanna actually infect it, which is what was happening to me.

Yeah. So I, I have in the past just done ozone, but that’s not enough, you would say? I think it is. If that’s all the option that you have. I like the other soak one. ’cause when this all started, I didn’t know about the asage bubbler and now I’m four years into this and Yeah. Yeah. But I also. Like the fact that you’re remineralizing your produce because that’s what’s happened to us.

We’re just not getting the same type of nutrients in our food anymore. Mm-hmm. And so this kind of gives that extra step, extra biohack stack that you [00:23:00] could do. Yeah. And it, it, it actually lasts longer. What was that? You all have, you know, that’s easier ’cause it’s just ingredients everyone has anyways in their kids to be able to do.

Yeah. And it, it just keeps your produce lasting longer. ’cause there isn’t bacteria still trying to eat your produce. Mm-hmm. That’s why our produce goes bad. Some people say that the soak causes it to be soggy, but I just do it when I eat it and so that I can have it be like fresh. Oh man. The way the grapes taste after.

’cause it’s like brings back their life. The color. Yeah. Just a smart way of doing things that I didn’t even do before either. I didn’t even think about it, you know? Yeah. Well this is the point I wanted to start with, which is yes, I think do, people do have a general understanding that maybe you swim in a dirty lake, you might pick up something like Giardia, you go to a third world country and eat some raw or uncooked food and you’re getting sick.

But what I wanted people to kind [00:24:00] of hear and understand is there are daily ways that we could be getting exposed to parasites. And to your point, it’s not so that we can then live in fear and live in a box and never leave our home. But when you have that understanding there, you can bring in things to mitigate, right?

Mm-hmm. And also understanding the reality, which is we are going to be exposed to parasites. Mm-hmm. Trying to focus all your attention on never getting exposed. The anxiety of that might make you just as sick, just in different ways. Yes. So it’s more of like finding that balance that works for you. Right.

Maybe everyone can’t go out and get a really good filtration system for their water. That doesn’t mean you can’t drink your water, but that means we’re gonna wanna be a little more proactive on maybe the cleansing and the support end to be able to create an inhospitable environment for those parasites to thrive.

And I know it’s expensive to do some of these things, but I give a lot of tips on how [00:25:00] it can cost you just a couple hundred dollars. And I live in an apartment now. I still have my log home, which has a whole house filtration system, and it’s just three filters and a UV light. Here in my apartment, I have filter system, which is just three filters underneath my cold water.

Mm-hmm. And so when you go into the bathroom here, it’s filtered cold water. The hot water’s shut off ’cause I’m just, we’re just too lazy to put it on the hot side too. But we, you know, we know like we’re aware and so I just wanna make sure, you know, it’s $200 for this filter, this three filter system. And then on my showers I have a $50.

Five micron filter that I just have on my shower head and we travel with it because I don’t want to be co consist, you know, con, constantly exposed. ’cause we travel a lot. And so it’s really just about the knowledge and, and it really is, once everyone hears this, they’re gonna go look. And it’s [00:26:00] really important to just be proactive.

Do I do, do I do it every day? I shower in filter water every day. But if we get to a place in another city and we can’t get the shower head off. We just shower. Yeah. You know, but I always have bottled water to brush my teeth. I had a worm in my eye from washing my hands and putting my contacts in. Oh my gosh, honey.

So I have a little bit of paranoia from water, but I also am really proactive about making sure that I never brush my teeth with unfiltered water. I ne, you know, I never wash my hands and then put ’em in my eyes. There’s just some things that we can do as a society to just be aware. Mm-hmm. And I will say, once you’ve gotten into habit, a lot of those become very easy and just kind of, you don’t have to put so much effort.

Mm-hmm. It is when you’re first getting started, that it can feel like a big lift, like a lot of things to do. But you slowly make some of those changes. [00:27:00] You slowly implement some of these habits and then it’s just kind of second nature. It is. Can we take a sec to talk briefly about symptoms? Mm-hmm.

Common symptoms and then maybe even not so common symptoms or symptoms that people wouldn’t necessarily pair with parasites. The most uncommon symptom that shocks everyone is grinding of the teeth. That’s the most common one that everyone kind of stops and drooling. When you’re a big drooler, it’s like your lymphatic system trying to push out any toxin, especially while you’re sleeping.

Kind of like with mold, if you’re peeing all night long, it’s your body telling you they got, they’re trying to push out those spores. It’s the same thought process. It’s your body alerting you that something is wrong and that you gotta get back in line with the homeostasis that we’re all trying to get to every day.

And so that’s one of the biggest things that I think is a shocker to most people is that we all think we have TMJ and is from [00:28:00] stress, but really it can be a root cause of why you’re grinding your teeth. And for me it really was. I went through the whole TMJ thing and I still was grinding my teeth.

Mm-hmm. And I don’t grind my teeth. I wear a. Anymore. I don’t grind my teeth anymore since I cleanse. Yeah. And when I start to feel like I might, or I wake up and I’m like, did I like my jaw? I’m like, oh, I need to cleanse. I need to get after it. Mm-hmm. This is something you do the rest of your life. This isn’t just a one and done.

And when you have stress and things that are going on, it triggers them. And so you could have a big flare thinking, oh, I just have a chronic illness. But in reality it’s just a flare of them. Like having a party in your body. Yeah. And so another symptom that it could be is craving food, like odd things.

’cause that’s they’re absorbing your nutrients. Mm-hmm. They can actually control your mind. It is proven. And [00:29:00] they have their own frequency and they have their own nervous system. So it’s just something alive inside of you. Yeah. Which is so creepy. But at the same time, it could explain things like.

Irrational behavior and mental health issues that could be going on over extreme anxiety like I was having. Mm-hmm. And as soon as I cleanse, I feel so much better mentally. And so an overabundance of anxiety really can be a big contributor to you having a parasite, not only a gut parasite, because your gut really is an emotional connection for you.

Mm-hmm. Um, I feel like it’s time to cleanse when I feel unworthy of myself, because that comes from your gut. Hmm. And it’s time for me to cleanse, and so I’m like, wait, I’m a really great person. Why am I beating myself up? For any of you who follow me on Instagram, you’ll probably have seen that a few weeks [00:30:00] ago I did my first ProLon fast mimicking program and I was so blown away with how, how easy it was, how accessible it was.

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That’s not something that I don’t think I would even ever do. But I also did the in-body [00:31:00] scan at Ascent adaptation before doing the diet and after doing the diet, because I really wanted to measure results. And I was blown away. I lost six pounds just in that week. I lost 2% body fat, but the other markers that I was really excited to track were my inflammation went down significantly.

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Once you click it, you’ll scroll down and you’ll see a little button that says Get 15% off. Their website is packed with so many research articles and studies and information for anyone who wants to learn more. Uh, that is so powerful. [00:32:00] You know, I, I work with cancer patients and chronic illness from an emotional root cause perspective.

Mm-hmm. Or emotional contributor, what might be Yes. Like helping us process sometimes the trauma of the diagnosis, but where might there be past unmetabolized trauma and emotions that are actually contributing to this illness. So I’m always fascinated with emotional connections to things. And so I think there probably is an emotional contributor too.

What makes parasites hospitable or what makes a hospitable environment for them. But on the flip side, when there are active parasites that can contribute to feelings of unworthiness mm-hmm. And fear and anxiety completely, they hold onto the memories, they hold onto that trauma. They’re sponges, they absorb everything.

So when you’re doing a cleanse, it’s not unheard of to feel emotionally unstable and to have heightened anxiety because they’re really, and going through something that like, you’re like, that wasn’t even a [00:33:00] thing I thought, and then all of a sudden you’re like working through it because they’re release.

Everything. Mm-hmm. They’re energetic Steelers, and that’s their job. Like they’re here doing something, they have their own job, but when they get out of whack, it really creates this environment in your body because they’re their own frequency, changing your frequency. Mm-hmm. And they can control you. I know I talk about Toxoplasmosis Gandhi, which is the cat parasite, which actually any warm-blooded animal can have toxoplasmosis.

But we associate it as a cat, a crazy cat lady parasite. But anybody can get it whether you’re pregnant. I know a lot of women know not to scoop cat poop because of toxo. Mm-hmm. But anybody can get toxo. And what it does is it goes into your mind and it controls your mind. It changes the way that your neurons [00:34:00] fire, so they make a misfire.

You’re not fearful and you’re promiscuous. And it creates a lot of anxiety and it just shows that the mouse, which a mouse has toxo, goes and cuddles up to a cat. It’s been brainwashed, controlled by toxo to go hang out with its enemy in order to get the next step of toxo to develop, which is an enzyme in the cat’s gut.

The cat eats it. So anytime you see a mouse, by the way, hanging out with a cat, get away. ’cause that means that that has toxoplasmosis Gandhi. Yeah, but it just shows and there’s a lot of like fighters that go to Mexico to get toxo so that they can continue to fight. And it just, it just the thought of how it can control the mind.

They actually did a study on crotch rocket riders that died and a hundred percent of ’em had toxoplasmosis. Oh my gosh. It’s so wild how it just, [00:35:00] it goes beyond right. I do think when. Gut symptoms would be the ones that I think people think of most. You have parasites, you’re having a ton of maybe indigestion or bloating.

Mm-hmm. Gut pain, IBS, you know, more gut related symptoms. But when people start to understand, it can impact so many different things, and they don’t just harbor in the gut. They can be in the liver, they can be in organs, in tissue, in the bloodstream. They can cross the blood brain barrier. Then we really start to understand, oh, the symptoms can be way more far reaching than we realize.

Well, RFK Junior has neuro sister sarcoma, which is a tapeworm of the brain. Because it crossed over and he got it from undercooked pork. Oh my gosh. And it ate part of his brain. And he talks about it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So it really is something that one can be an issue and cause your cells to stay stagnant because it’s, they’re fighting against themselves.

[00:36:00] They don’t know what this environmental toxin invader is. Hmm. And two, it is something that we should be regularly doing that became such a taboo subject because of western medicine. Mm-hmm. And that we’ve only been in this western medicine world for 101 years and that they don’t know everything. And it’s okay.

Like I come from it. I respect western medicine. We need it. Mm-hmm. But I also know that we need to look beyond certain things for ourselves and for people around us. And it’s like if you are questioning anything, it’s not gonna hurt you to do a purified cleanse. It’s not going. To hurt you to remove some heavy metals, some candida.

Candida is a parasite. Mm-hmm. It’s an overgrowth of yeast. So especially during like the holidays when we’re all eating sugar, it’s just creating candida. And then you’ve gotta work on getting rid of the candida. And so then it creates this [00:37:00] hospitable environment for if you did happen to eat some sushi.

Right. ’cause then they all hang out together and now you’ve just created an ecosystem in your body that you don’t even know could be contributing to you not feeling well on a mental and on a physical. Mm-hmm. And from what I understand, two things I’ll point out. One parasites. To your point, you’ve already made a little bit, they hold onto a lot.

Mm-hmm. You know, they hold onto viruses and bacteria and mold and emotions and so that can be a big reason why maybe you’re doing some of these other cleanses or detoxes and yet you’re not feeling better because you still have these parasites. Mm-hmm. Loaded with all these toxins. But that second point that in a more even indirect way, it can contribute to.

Downstream illness. When you’re, when you have a parasite, your body is on some level, from what I understand, trying to fight it off. Mm-hmm. Yes. And so that, I like to kind of think of our immune system as like a little army, but if [00:38:00] 80% of your army every day, all day is trying to maintain these parasites, that paves the way for, well I only have 20% left to fight the Lyme or the mold or the cancer.

Yes. Or whatever it might be. I’m gonna use that. I am, I’m gonna use that. ’cause I’ll say, I’ll say that same thing, but the numbers is what I think people really can grasp onto and fully understand that it’s, that is a hundred percent the truth. And when you get rid of that 80%. The issue then is, what else is going on?

Because something else is going on. It’s not always the main thing for me, I thought it was the main thing, but as I’ve dug deeper into my own health, there’s so many other layers that I’ve had to get rid of, but they can hold up to six to eight times their weight in spores. Heavy metals, viruses, bacteria, eggs, they all hang out together.

And so [00:39:00] what goes on when you’re parasite cleansing? And what made the PARAY kit so amazing is that I realized that while I was just doing a parasite cleanse, I wasn’t finding mm-hmm. I didn’t do a heavy metal with it. I wasn’t controlling the candida. And it actually created this crazy, worse environment.

It dumped viruses. I ended up getting Epstein-Barr virus like for over a year, which I had never had EBV symptoms before. Mm-hmm. And I mean, it just created this. Whirlwind of problems in my body while I was doing just the parasite cleanse, wormwood, garlic. And I’m like, oh, so you really need to do multiple different levels of cleansing.

And I created it so that you are using heavy metal herbs at the same time you are helping your candida at the same time you are helping the symptoms of the parasite and your binding. Mm-hmm. [00:40:00] So that’s kind of where this whole thing got started with Rogers hood is specifically because I was dropping heavy metals and it was making me worse.

Mm-hmm. Right. And I have no idea. I come from western medicine. We use charcoal not as a binder. In the er we use charcoal. If someone came in and overdosed or had alcohol poisoning and you shoved a mass amount down their throats mm-hmm. To get it pumped. Yeah. We didn’t use it in some little microdose capsule and like have it bind and so.

Here I am on the internet willy-nilly. Just taking para guard. Yeah. And it just wasn’t enough. And it created an actual worse environment for me and my husband. They were coming out of our skin. They were coming out of our feet. They were coming out of our urine. I mean, it was, I had coughed one up. I’m like, I don’t know if I can keep doing this, you know?

And so I’m reading my comments and I’m like, oh, so you’re supposed to bind? Yes. Yeah. Oh, [00:41:00] so I should be using like cilantro as like my heavy metal? Mm-hmm. Herb. I’m like, oh, okay. So. Some herbs only work with some parasites, and some herbs can stir those up. So you should be using multiple layers of anti parasite herbs.

And you know, I’m like, um, why isn’t this out here? Why isn’t, why isn’t there some kit? Yes. Cute. Yeah. I think that’s the perfect segue though, into really quickly common common mistakes or missteps. Mm-hmm. People make when they do want to start parasite cleansing. And to that end, part of what I want to touch on or hear your input on is one, why, especially if you’re first starting, if you’ve never done a parasite cleanse before, why one 30 day cleanse might not be enough.

Mm-hmm. Why we need to consider doing, you know, what does it look like if you’ve never done a cleanse before? What we, what do we need to kind of have in our [00:42:00] head? But then if you’re just in maintenance mode, how that might differ a little bit, but also to that end, the types of supplements you’re taking.

’cause I think now there’s a, there’s a lot going on out there. I think some stuff is too intense. Some stuff I don’t think is doing anything. And so can we touch on some of those different pieces? Yeah. So we’re gentle. The purify kit is three tinctures and a binder, and we include instructions. We hand make our kits ourselves.

And I will definitely touch on everything you said, but I want everyone to hear that like. I experienced this and then I brought it to the forefront because of all of the things you just said. There isn’t anything out there. We need instructions. We’re so somewhat indoctrinated by Western medicine that we need to have very clear instructions.

And a lot of people from me seeing patients for 20 years myself as a licensed medical specialist, I [00:43:00] also see that people don’t wanna do something long term. Mm-hmm. So I chose very obtainable dates, amounts, because if you go be on that, people get overwhelmed. Mm-hmm. Including, but not limited to my husband.

Yeah. And so, you know, I need him to cleanse. Yeah. And I needed to be simple for him, and I needed him to want to do it because I needed him to not feel so. Yucky that they stop. And so that’s really in my mind where I was going when I brought in the herbs and I have small intestinal parasites. And so Oregon Grapefruit, which is an anti-parasitic in one of our tinctures called Sustain, is my favorite because Wormwood, it can be very harsh, but if you bring in Worm Wood’s best friend, Oregon Grapefruit, they’re friends and they hang out together, and then they do work together as a team instead of wormwood heavy hitter, really getting in there, making you feel [00:44:00] like trash.

But if you bring in a symphony of herbs and they all have their own job, it’s gonna make it for such a better cleanse than just, I’m hitting it hard with garlic wormwood, black walnut hole, and then I’m gonna feel like trash and I’m not gonna be able to finish this. And then you’ve wasted your money and your time.

Yeah, completely. I just, I see. I feel like I see both ends of it, which is mm-hmm. People going way too hard and not really understanding what detox is and how more isn’t always better or faster. Sometimes we need to work up to it, especially if you’ve never done a parasite cleanse. There’s gonna be a lot of things coming out and things that are needing to be bind.

And doing that actually in a slower way that your body can adjust to as it’s happening is so much more important. Now, last, I’ve talked about this and it’s been a few years, so the research might have changed. Um, but working with some doctors, I know they had talked about when you first first do a parasite cleanse, [00:45:00] you kind of wanna have like three to four months in your head of really, because the, the parasites have different life cycles.

Yeah. And you know, you might, when you’re doing a cleanse, only be killing the adults that have sort of come out of the tissue and been birthed from the eggs. And so you wanna make sure you’re hitting it three to four months in a row. Maybe that first, first time you’re doing an intense cleanse. What are your thoughts on that?

Again, the last time I really did a deep dive on this was probably a few years ago, so information might have changed. Information really hasn’t changed ’cause these things have been around longer than us and they’re, we unlive them very similarly. But I definitely take that into account when someone does start.

And I do give around 45 days of product in our kits. And I also have the lymph kit. So the lymphatic kit that I created called Lymph, it has sustained in it. So you are introducing a small amount of anti-parasitics [00:46:00] with Oregon grapefruit and Nia, anything you’re doing to keep your pathways open is also keeping them moving.

So just ’cause you’re not in there hitting them hard with warm wood or Oregon grapefruit. Oregon grapefruit is in all of my kids. Except for Moldies moldy, in case you pivot over to the mold world. Moldies doesn’t have that, but it also does have anti parasitics that will keep the parasites from settling when you remove the spores.

And so basically what we’re doing is we’re showing you how to open your lymphatic system, keep your body moving using herbs. We teach you how to open your pathways. We have free resources that are in my profiles, as well as our team does emails, every email, every dm, every comment. We want you to feel supported.

With that feeling of support. If you start 30 days and then you are like, I need to keep going, you just take a seven day break in between. Mm-hmm. So we include [00:47:00] these instructions for people. Some people only need 30 days and then every three to four months after that. And even though it’s starting to disrupt them, we have different styles of kits in between your main cleanse.

And so if you wanna keep going, you can’t. I cleansed almost every day for a month, for a year. So it wasn’t something that I stopped, it’s just people don’t want to go past the 30 days and you really need to do this three or four times a year. And so by the time you’re unliving them and then you stop, they start to build again.

You get to go in there and attack them again. Yeah. And just to that end, it’s, first of all, I think that you make, the kit you make is so accessible. It’s not a big to-do. Mm-hmm. That if you’re doing this three or four times a year, it’s still so accessible to work into your everyday life. I don’t think it’s overwhelming at all, but to that end, it’s, it’s being able to [00:48:00] just go, look, yes, we are gonna get exposed.

Mm-hmm. And so we just wanna be proactive about making sure they can’t build up, it’s not a hospitable environment for them to thrive. And so it’s not a Oh no, we, you know. Oh my gosh. We just have to continue to do this thing. It, I mean, it just really is like a lifestyle shift. It’s, I think we have to make a little bit, let’s get a little deeper into, I know we kind of like, we’ve been touching in with, but what are the kits?

Yeah. And then I do wanna understand, ’cause there’s different levels of each kit. Mm-hmm. So what’s, you know, what’s the general purify kit? What’s the general lymph kit? Some of the questions I have with those are, if it’s someone’s first time ever doing a parasite cleanse, what should they start with? Can you do the purify and the lymph together or is there one you’re supposed to start with first?

Talk us through some of these. Well, the limp kit is around six weeks old, so we just birthed that on May 15th, which it’s brand new baby. Oh. [00:49:00] And it’s such a good kit. Um, I brought in Turkey Tail and Lion’s Mane and those two are my favorite mushrooms. They helped me so much with my health journey that I’ve had, so I brought those in and I do recommend doing the lymphatic kit, uh, like three weeks prior to purify.

Sometimes a month. Okay. Depending on if your lymphatic is open. And then you can continue to take it throughout your time on the purify kit. And then we have different kits, um, because of different supplemental assistance. Mm-hmm. My full belief is you have to have supplements while you’re detoxing.

Mm-hmm. You have to be able to support the organs. And so when you’re bringing something in, like the lymph kit with the purify kit, you’re protecting your brain. I put Lion’s Mane in there. It’s one of the few herbs that. Pass the blood brain barrier and actually go in and heal versus just bandaid. Turkey tail helps break down, um, adhesions and [00:50:00] tumors and they give it to patients that are on chemo meds.

’cause it helps break that down. And so we all have something in our body that Turkey tail has to go in and break down. So especially if you do have an overabundance of parasites in your body. So I definitely recommend starting with the limp kit. Mm-hmm. And then you can continue that kit on with the purify kit.

We have a couple of different just. Labels of the purify kit. One is called Super purify, and that one has four tinctures versus our normal OG of three tinctures. Mm-hmm. Um, the, the fourth tincture is called red artist. It’s another mushroom functional mushroom that I took for digestion and my nervous system.

So we just label them so that if you’re looking at the kit, you’re like, oh, the ultimate is fulvic, which I love me fulvic. I had worm swim outta my feet with the fulvic, so it’s all on video in case anyone wants to go and type in Worm Queen Fulvic. [00:51:00] You can watch this swim around in the fulvic water. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. So can you give us the ideal, ideal, like. If someone wanted to go all in, here’s the ideal. And then could you give us the like, look if, if you’re not sure and you wanna do the bare minimum just to test it out, what that would look like. It sounds like it would start with getting the lymph kit.

Yeah. And then would it be, because yes, there are those three iterations of the pared kits. Kits is the ideal that you get the ultimate purify kit to be able to check all these different boxes. Yes. Yeah, I recommend getting the lymph and then also at the same time getting the ultimate purify ’cause it has gutty, fulvic and then the purify kit.

And we include instructions on, in everything you’re, you’re never getting a box sent to you that doesn’t have instructions. And if for some reason they’re forgotten, you email us and we’ll get it to you email. But we’re, it’s just three times a day. Like [00:52:00] it’s really 15 drops of each tincture. Three times a day you take it all together and then two hours after you take your last dose, you bind with cinnamon.

And cinnamon is clon cinnamon and coconut activated charcoal. So we included the heavy metal detox, which is called metal flush. I found that that really made the cleanse so much better. You have to break the biofilm that surrounds them. It’s a hard shell that they live in that gets the nutrients to them, and then they, you have to break that to be able to expose them using these other herbs.

So I brought in an herb that is very old and um, used with Native Americans. It’s called lort lichen. And it goes in and it breaks that biofilm so that it exposes them. Basically what it does is it’s burning the house down that they’re in, making them need to leave, and then you come in and you attack them with all of the other heavy hitter [00:53:00] herbs so that they’re exposed.

They can’t, they can’t go and hide anymore. And so then you bring in different layers of herbs. I brought in dandelion to support your liver since it’s one of the last pathways before it hits all of your, your different organs to come out as a pathway. And then I brought in Nia. Nia is mother Nature’s doxycycline and also helps curb your appetite.

It helps push out viruses ’cause they’re holding onto them. They’re holding onto bacteria. So. What I figured out in the process of all of this is these are all just frequencies. Yeah. And there are other labels for synthetic driven drugs that we’ve all used to, but an ailment is a frequency. Mm-hmm. And so is the herbs that we’re bringing in.

And it’s like an opera singer singing and breaking the glass. She got her voice to the same frequency as the glass, so she shattered the glass. So I took that analogy [00:54:00] and I picked out every single issue that I had when I was deworming with other companies and I brought that in ’cause I want people to finish the cleanse.

I want you to feel better. I want you to understand that like this should be done three or four times a year minimum. And that it makes you feel better overall. Like yeah, you’re gonna have die offs. We’re very gentle, we’re very effective, and you are gonna have headaches. You’re gonna have a stomach ache.

It come, if it comes out of your skin, you gotta open up that pathway. And so there’s certain things that. You’re going through because you’re killing something off inside of your body that’s peeing and pooping, reproducing, dropping, all these other things. And so your body’s doing its job. It’s like, whoa, hold up.

I don’t know what’s going on. I’m going to put a shell around everything and protect you, Uhhuh. And so it’s really doing what it should be doing when you have the die-offs. And now you gotta work through those [00:55:00] die-offs, get the support you need, make sure your pathways are open, and then you’re gonna feel better.

Yeah. I think one thing I’ll point out that I’ve seen is so different about Rogers Hood products versus others is others either A, they’re just products that kill the parasites or mm-hmm. You know. Can kill parasites, but it’s not helping break biofilms. So they’re not that effective anyways. The, the worst kits, or the worst ones are the ones that have no binders.

’cause then you’re just killing and you’re not doing anything to help kind of mop up all that die off and actually get it out of the body. But what I love is that you’re addressing all three of those pieces. One is, uh, four, I guess breaking the biofilm so that number two, those parasite, whatever, unli herbs mm-hmm.

Actually get to where they need to go. You’re binding all the toxins that are being released. But then, you know, the fourth one here is that there’s all these supportive herbs just [00:56:00] for the organs. The systems, the nervous system, and I think that’s what makes Rogers hood so much more accessible and way less die off symptoms.

Like way more, um, yeah, accessible and just less of a, um. A pain. Yeah. To be able to do it. And I think that’s kind of what you need to do. You need to get rid of, we need to get rid of what is weighing us down, but we also need to bring in the nourishing things so that the body has the resources it needs to even do that work in the first place and kind of heal and recover as you’re going.

And it goes back to that 80 20, right? You wanna flip that. You want the 20% to be like, I’m doing this, but I’m supporting everything, especially your liver. ’cause your liver is a huge detoxer. And so if you are not doing that with milk thistle and dandelion and not fully understanding how to support that, it’s just taxing it completely.[00:57:00]

And then, and then they’re harboring in there more because now that energy of the liver is less. And they love that. Like they love it when you’re sad. They love it when your frequency is low. And so they find ways to stay in there. Because of that. But if you make those organs healthy mm-hmm. And you make them energetic, they’re gonna push it out because they’re gonna be like, get out of here.

I don’t have time for you. Mm-hmm. Like, I gotta do my normal job. Yeah. I don’t need you weighting me down. Yeah. A parasite is anything that feeds off the host get out of me. You know? And like, and again, this might not be for me, this wasn’t my only cause, but it helped me one, figure out what was, two, made me feel better, and three made me understand that these things are all in us and it’s normal in a sense.

We’re human. And so. I just need to know that I have to keep like a shield up at all times, [00:58:00] which means if I’m going to eat questionably, I’m going to take my kit prior to eating questionably. Mm-hmm. If I’m traveling, I’m going to come home and do a mini cleanse because they then won’t wanna stay in me.

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But [01:00:00] no, this is a living thing. And if you’re asking your liver to purge parasites and purge toxins, well you’ve gotta give it the resources to be able to do that. If you want your car to drive 400 miles, you need to fill it with a tank of gas. Yes. And it’s the same kind of thing. If we just go in with all these heavy, you know, parasite killing herbs and whatever, but we’re not giving any fuel to the body.

The body’s not even gonna be able to use those in the right way. Correct. And you wouldn’t not change your car’s oil. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean, I think that we all understand that analogy. You gotta change your oil. You gotta go in there and really support it. Mm-hmm. You have to make sure that you understand that when you do these cleanses, it might just be 30 days, but you removed things that are gonna stack up.

And I know the moment that my health declined, I know what was going on [01:01:00] in my life and I know how much I was exposed to the water. Mm-hmm. My house had mold, my family and I disconnected. We went into no contact. I lost three grandparents in two weeks. Yeah. And of course they’re coming in, they’re opportunist.

Yes. And my health declined. Rapidly. Mm-hmm. Like overnight, I became extremely sick prior to what I, what I’m doing now. I was in roller derby, I snowboarded, I ran, I did, you know, 25 medical colleges, like I was a high achiever, very active. It just took a few really stressful events in a very toxic environment, in real life.

Mm-hmm. To cause my health to spiral. And so when you go in and you clean out the oil in your car, it’s going to not accumulate, allowing you to run a little bit more. [01:02:00] So when you are exposed, your body goes. I’m good. Yeah. Well, I have so many resources, I can clear that out, no problem. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, to that point, it’s, we understand in life that anything we want to last for a long, long time, we need to care for and maintain.

Mm-hmm. Our cars, our homes, you know, and so the body is the same way, but I think it’s taking it that step further that conventional medicine is sort of like, yeah, maintain your body by doing a yearly check-in. Where we look at like the bare minimum things, and this is just a little bit of a deeper layer of that.

Mm-hmm. We’ve got to be tuning into the mind, body, and spirit in a much deeper way. But to your point, I’ve, I’ve never worked with a cancer patient who, or an individual experiencing cancer who di didn’t have multiple things going on. And the way that I explain it to them often is. Is we all have cancer cells.

Mm-hmm. We all do. And typically the body is able to fight them off and [01:03:00] purge them and clear them out. So we’re not asking the question, why did you get cancer? Mm-hmm. What we’re asking is, why is your body no longer able to fight it off? And it’s usually because there is this combination of, well 20% of the Army’s off fighting Lyme and 20 percent’s off fighting mold and another 30 is off fighting heavy metals and another 50 is off fighting all the unresolved past trauma.

Mm-hmm. All the toxic relationships we’re still living in and the misaligned life and the lack of fulfillment and the over overextending yourself chronically. That’s the piece I work on. So, but yes, and so, and I think it’s just that same thing of just being able to understand when we maintain regularly some of these different things, we can’t reach that peak capacity where.

Everything can just sort of take off and take over. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, that’s, I mean it, and I think we’ve just not had the [01:04:00] resources in life to sit down and understand that we should. Have had this taught to us when we were in like high school. Yeah. You know, and we just haven’t, I mean, I, I, I have a lot of education and I still didn’t know about all of this.

Mm-hmm. I’m really grateful that I do and I’m grateful because I had parasites. I have 11 line, 11 different molds that are active in my body. My mom has the same ones. Hmm. So now I’m like digging deep into my family. We’ve reconnected and um, and then I have chronic Lyme and I now know I was in the end stages.

I was in the end stage of Lyme when that picture was taken. ’cause I was being pelted. I mean, my organs were shutting down ’cause I had Cryptosporidium. Yeah. You know, so it’s like, you just never know. And why not be proactive? Mm-hmm. You have to be in life. We’re just, we’re just in a toxic environment in life now.

And so in order to be able to. [01:05:00] Keep our bodies from creating tumors. Mm-hmm. And then having our bodies fight itself because, um, I was on Dr. XA couple of weeks ago and we were talking about cancer, and I don’t really talk a lot about it, and I have been more and more because it really is a subject that, why has it been such an understudied thing?

And why is our bodies attacking itself? Well, if it doesn’t know what this foreign object is, it’s trying to protect you. Mm-hmm. So how do you break that foreign object down? And if they don’t have the DNA to compare when they’re doing any sort of biopsy, that’s an issue. Mm-hmm. And so one of the things that I’m working on since being able to have this platform is I want to go in front of.

Legitimate lobbyist and and Congress and asked them why can’t we test for Lyme, parasites and mold and have it accurate, affordable, and available to us [01:06:00] before determining anything else? And I, and I say this because I probably wouldn’t have needed a hysterectomy at 29 years old and 13 surgeries. Yeah.

Every two years I had a surgery to get rid of the endometriosis. If I had been able to find out that I had parasites, mold, and Lyme. I was bit by a tick when I was 10. Yeah. And no one ever thought to check me for Lyme until two years ago. I just found out I had chronic Lyme two years ago. And so I feel like these are things that if you give the information to people, the downfall is we just don’t have any really good testing.

And my testing that I had, um, actually wasn’t in Mexico. It wasn’t even in the States. Um, my stool went off to LabCorp. And the same stool went off to Mexico. And Mexico told me what was going on and LabCorp did not. Yeah. So testing is not reliable. It’s something that we talk about. Just cleanse three to [01:07:00] four times a year, make it obtainable for you and your family.

Just do the things in order for you to be in a proactive preventative mindset versus, oh my God, we have to react to the problem. Mm-hmm. Yeah, completely. I completely agree and I love that. I, I think we have a similar energy ’cause I’m on a mission to like change the cancer world. I really think I’m, I’m studying depth psychology, which is all about the unconscious mind and my PhD, but I just see, I’ve never worked with a cancer patient who didn’t have some unmetabolized trauma and even present day just misalignments in their life.

And I think it’s the psyche, it’s the spirit, it’s the soul speaking to us. And so I’m on a mission to like change the way. Cancer is treated, but then also prevented. But I just love that ’cause I think it’s, it’s so exciting to meet another practitioner, another person in the field who’s like, not only do I just wanna have these products that are amazing, I also wanna go out and change [01:08:00] legislation and change and really shake up this industry.

That’s always super exciting and just enlivening. It’s my mission. It’s my mission. And I’ve, I’ve, I’m aligning myself with people that can help with this mission for all of us. It’s not. There’s two things I wanna say. Um, one, I would love for you to reach out to Dr. Juliana Giles. She is an oncologist natural doctor.

She’s my personal doctor. Okay. She’s in my link tree. Her name is, um, it’s under Veda. Okay. But she’s one of my very, very good friends, and I found her because we treated endometriosis like cancer. Mm-hmm. I went in and I researched what I can do to get rid of adhesions and tumors and what they did for patients that had cancer.

And so that’s really what led me down this path. And that’s where like, I stopped pooping for a month because of my endometriosis, but really it wasn’t uhhuh. And so I found Dr. Giles here in Seattle. That’s her [01:09:00] specialty. She, she works with oncology patients all day long in a natural way to support their, their organs while they’re going through chemo or if they choose to not go through it.

That’s what she does, and she’s just amazing. She’s just such a, she helped me with this kit. Like she’s just a, such a different person in her mind because she is on the natural spectrum, you know? Yeah. And has a good understanding. But I am aligning myself and I feel like. We have to build this army. Yeah.

And it’s wild. ’cause I’m seeing Instagram as this army of all of us, all of us wellness people that have kind of had enough after 2020 we’ve got this medical awakening. Mm-hmm. And everyone is understanding their bodies better. And that’s why my podcast, what’s Eating You is all about the medical awakening that we’re all going through.

Mm-hmm. And fully understanding what’s going on in our bodies. And not that we’ve been lied to, but we just haven’t been given the light. Yeah. And so there’s quite [01:10:00] a few people out here that wanna do the same thing and it’s really. Amazing. Completely. Yeah, a thousand percent. Oh, I’m gonna have to look her up and reach out.

Oh, she’s great. For sure. For sure. Oh my god, she’s the best. Oh, I love that. Okay, now I wanna see, I know we’re a little bit over. Can I ask a couple of these questions? Oh, absolutely. Okay. And my only thing today, you’re it, I got, I gotta go back to Roger, so at some point today, but this is way more fun. I love that.

Well, I don’t know if anyone knows, but like we make our own products in a 10,000 square foot manufacturing facility in Jonesboro, Arkansas, that we run ourselves and built ourselves. Oh my gosh. So we’re so committed to what we’re doing that my really good friend and I, Erica, she runs production in Jonesboro and I’m in Seattle and we are very committed to making sure.

We’re third party tested and that we ethically and source our organic herbs ourselves or forage. There are so many things that we’re doing that’s [01:11:00] so different than other companies. Mm-hmm. Because of what personally happened to me. Mm-hmm. And so when I started this, I vowed that this is it. Like this is what we want to have society see that it’s important to be transparent and to third party test and to explain to people exactly what they’re putting in their bodies.

Yeah. Completely. Oh, that’s so, I just absolutely love that. Yeah. The intention that has gone into every layer and I think you feel that, and if we wanna get metaphysical, that intention is in your products, literally, energetically imbued in your products. It’s not just, uh, a nice thought, like I really do think it changes.

The product itself and the impact it has, so, mm-hmm. It’s so cool. Okay, A couple questions. Some of these we already sort of answered, um, but there, there were two that I knew I really wanted to get to. One are, are different types of parasites harder to eradicate than others? Yes. [01:12:00] Some of them burrow deeper down into your body.

Some of them are pretty resilient. I’m gonna say that pinworm thread worms are pretty resilient. Hmm. You have to attack them in a different way than you would on another like tapeworm. Tapeworm and pinworms are the top two that are the most resilient and harder to remove. They really attach themselves.

To organs in your body that you’re like, what the lungs are, where red worms are, which is a pinworm. Mm-hmm. And then tapeworms are energetically and physically inside of your, um, gut, but they also are in your blood and your tissue and they can lay, um, up to a million eggs a day. ’cause they have 46 uterus.

Oh my God. Inside one segment. Oh my god. Yo. One little rice segment can hold 46 uterus and pump out a million eggs a day. Oh my gosh. When they feel the fear. [01:13:00] They start dumping their offspring so that they can continue to regenerate. They’re smart. Mm-hmm. And so I feel like those two are the hardest. You really do have to do multiple protocols in order to do that are sustained, which is Oregon grape root, Nia, and peppermint.

It really gets in there and tries to eradicate the pinworm. Pinworms home in your body is appendix. Oh, so that’s where they live and they can live there for decades. Mm-hmm. You have to do a cleanse in order to eradicate them. You can’t just go and take one chocolate square and think that it’s gonna get rid of the pinworms ’cause they’re dumping their eggs on the way out.

Mm-hmm. It’s like the full moon rolls up, which is happening on Friday, and you are just scratching at your butt. You probably have pinworms. Oh, yeah. Or the, the thing that is so common for people, I think, especially around the full moon, is they’re not sleeping. [01:14:00] They’re staying up late. They’re headaches, you know, gut issues that flare up around the full moon, but any kind of, any kind of symptoms that flare around the full moon, if you could just track it for a month or two even skin stuff is probably related to activity and.

There’s a science behind the full moon. It creates more serotonin in our body and lowering our melatonin. And they eat the serotonin. Mm-hmm. And then they just get to hop on a serotonin river and float throughout your entire body, reestablishing communities inside of your body. And that’s why people go crazy during the full moon.

And like in the er, they’re always like, you cannot, you know, full moon, get ready. Yeah. And it’s because that chemical that we need in order for us to continue to stay sane is gone. Mm-hmm. And they’re eating it, allowing themselves to create a whole new community and in your body, which it, this is, it’s all legit.

Like it’s all a science. Right, right, right. That will tell you about it. Yeah. [01:15:00] Yes. No, there’s so much science behind it. I know it sounds a little woo wooy. Yeah. Some people weren’t like, oh, the full moon. But no, there is so much science to support exactly why that is impacting and increasing parasite activity.

So last question. Um. Can you detox without juicing or blowing out your colon? This, I know this person and I actually have a number of colon cancer clients mm-hmm. Who just have had a lot of open abdominal surgeries, parts of their colon removed, and sometimes the issue they experience is, you know, it’s just impaired a bit.

And so some of these detox things are too much for them. Mm-hmm. Or if it’s stirring up too many bowel movements, it can cause a lot of issues for them. Thoughts? I don’t, I don’t feel like ours in particular, especially ’cause it’s a tincture so you can regulate it way better and it goes immediately into the bloodstream.

I don’t feel like ours is causing those type of issues. I think probably the opposite. [01:16:00] Sometimes the constipation side happens ’cause it’s a die off. Mm-hmm. But I don’t have a lot of feedback that comes and says that they’ve blown out and that they, they can’t do it while working or, yeah. That there’s a lot of those issues because I created so many supportive herbs inside of there.

Mm-hmm. That it kind of balances out more. That’s, that’s at least from the, I think we’ve sold like over 150,000 kits and so I don’t get a lot of feedback saying that, you know, they’ve had accidents where, yeah, when you’re taking a pill, it takes a lot longer to digest. So your body’s giving it that 80 20 energy uhhuh, right?

With a tincture, it’s absorbed immediately into the bloodstream. Immediately into the mouth. Immediately into the muscle. And it gets right to work. When you take something that’s a pill, it takes longer ’cause you have to break that pill down. Mm-hmm. It gets in the way with stomach acid and food and like, there’s a lot more [01:17:00] energy that goes into breaking a pill down than breaking a tincture down.

Yeah. Oh, that’s such a good point. Um. Those were, those are the two. All the others we sort of accidentally answered as we went through. Um, what I need to send you as just an aside is, so I, for a while I was working, actually, I was a patient. So in 2020 I was diagnosed with stage zero breast cancer. That’s how I got on this whole journey myself.

And parasite cleansing was a big part of it. I was a patient at an integrative cancer center locally, but there was a doctor there who combined this technology called the Fcan with his own technology that he invented called the Firefly. I don’t know if you’ve heard of these. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Dr. Bales, I, I was a patient of his, he’s then, we were kind of colleagues and worked together a lot, but.

To your point, I think just supplementation can be an amazing place to start. And if people are noticing that they’re having some parasites that are super resistant or they’re needing a little extra support, [01:18:00] the, the Fcan Plus the Firefly was amazing. It’s like such an amazing, but also still kind of like gentle resource, but you can’t use it alone.

Like you must do that with Yeah. Supplement support. I, I believe I also, when I was doing deep parasite cleansing, in the very, very beginning, it was the Firefly Fcan, which I have a podcast, I’ll make sure it’s linked, and then the supplements and then coffee enemas. Mm-hmm. You have, you have to do the extras and, and that, I mean, that.

Course stuff out. You have to do those extras. Your body needs it. It’s not just taking of the herbs. Mm-hmm. It’s doing extra modalities. It’s vibration plate. Ugh. Red light is my favorite. I’m obsessed. I have a hyperbaric chamber oxygen therapy, literally right next to me. Oh my gosh. You have to do the PMF.

You have to take care of your body while doing this. It is doing something that it’s never done before a lot of times. Hmm. And so you have to show [01:19:00] it consciously that you are gonna support it. So not just the herbs, but the coffee enemas, the colonics. Hmm. Water enemas. My best friend is my co-host and she loves doing enemas and so she’s constantly just do a water enema, get in there and assist your body.

Mm-hmm. Make it easier on yourself because your body, these are new. This is new. It’s like. Hold up. This muscle memory that I have is not used to this, so what can I do to make it better? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Oh my gosh, I love that. Well, I’ve taken us way over our time. I’m so sorry. Okay. I loved this. This one might’ve been one of my best podcasts.

Oh, that makes me so happy. Mm-hmm. I, I love that. That is the best compliment you could give me as a Oh, so good [01:20:00] friend.