THE ACCRESCENT™ PODCAST EPISODE 212

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:25.788)
Okay, beautiful. Here we go. We will dive right in. Welcome. Welcome to the Accrescent Podcast.

Kim Ressler (01:33.083)
Thank you, Leanne. It’s great to be here. I’m excited. Beautiful day, right?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:38.672)
Yes, stunning day here in SoCal. We just learned how close we are to each other location wise.

Kim Ressler (01:44.057)
I know we could have sat in the same room to do this together, right? I mean, that’s funny.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:48.11)
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So then do you have a favorite little restaurant in Orange County or I’m sorry in Laguna that you go to all the time?

Kim Ressler (01:55.943)
One of our favorites, there’s several favorites. I’ll name them really quick. Really like Nirvana Grill, Farm to Table Food, Chef Lindsay’s amazing. 230 Forests, it’s kind of like our cheers. Great, great food as well. there’s so many. I mean, there’s so many. Salonies. yeah, right.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:17.054)
of rye. Now that rye goods opened up one out here by us, I go to the one in Costa Mesa all the time. So I love that. I’m such a foodie. That’s so fun.

Kim Ressler (02:23.439)
I love it. Yeah, I am a foodie. I don’t do gluten, so I don’t do a lot of baked goods. But yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:30.104)
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I am. Yeah. It’s so fun. It’s Especially when we’re close. It’s fun to kind of get to know some of your favorite spots in the area. So, I’m so excited to get into the brand, the product, all the nitty gritty of it, but I do want to start with just an origin story. I really love hearing how did, how did someone go from whatever you were doing before to deciding I am going to take on this massive

Kim Ressler (02:41.509)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:58.792)
project of building a product, launching a brand, trying to get it out there into the world as a small business owner. I know how much that takes. So how did you get here?

Kim Ressler (03:10.087)
How did I get here? That’s a great question. How did I get here? And yes, why did I take this on, right? Well, I guess truly for me, how it all started, it started in 2007 and I was pregnant with our fourth child. So I four children and they saw something interesting in my blood work. And that’s kind of was the beginning of my health journey.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:12.176)
you

Kim Ressler (03:39.719)
And off I went to a specialist every single month during my pregnancy and they would see something and then would be normal. Then they’d see it again and they’d be normal. truly, I mean, to just walk through the next 11 years after I delivered my daughter, I didn’t feel well. I mean, and I think a lot of people can relate to it was just like the sudden switch. And I was just like, why?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (04:02.142)
Mm.

Kim Ressler (04:09.773)
why don’t I feel well? And the symptoms just kept compounding. And you’re told things like, and I think people can relate, you have postpartum depression. I was like, I’m not depressed. I don’t feel good. But to this point, my blood work was looking good. So I did what so many people do, I’m sure, right? I was looking for answers. I went, are you beta?

I started seeing an Arguevada provider. Then I started seeing naturopaths. I started doing different therapies. I went vegan. I did what a lot of people, you know, I was grasping because the symptoms just kept mounting. First it was the chronic fatigue and the terrible sleep and then it was the terrible digestion and we just could keep going on and on. And my body wasn’t getting rid of what it needed to. So you can imagine, I mean, the joint mobility issues. It was just, it kept compounding. This went on for 11.

years. I don’t think I’m the only person out there, right? But in 2014, a very dear friend of mine said to me, my son, they’ve told my son that he’s ADHD and I refuse to put him on medication. I think it happens to be something with genetics. This is what opened my eyes up to that your genetics could influence something so big, right? And she said,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (05:06.174)
my gosh.

Kim Ressler (05:34.407)
I’m going to have him genetically tested and we’re going to go from there and I was like Fascinating keep me posted right so through it through his genetic testing $10,000 in nine months they addressed a gene or pathway and They took the child off a gluten. It was like night and day difference and during this time I was like Again, she spent $10,000 in nine months. I was like wow

Leigh Ann Lindsey (05:42.301)
Hmm.

Kim Ressler (06:03.565)
But I wonder if there’s something underlying in my genetics that make it so that I process food or I need nutrients in a different way. And I was like, that’s fascinating. that’s when I first learned about what we call NutriGenomics was 2014. My husband and I wanted to do this. however,

I was just like, sweetheart, we’ve got kids all over the place, one graduating, one going to senior year of college, one freshman year. We were doing a lot. And I said, it’s time consuming and it’s expensive. said, I don’t think the time is right now. Literally within a couple of days of us having this conversation, now we’re in 2018, just so you know, because in 2014, I was living somewhere else. I didn’t have access to the provider that friend had. Anyway.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:38.098)
Yeah.

Kim Ressler (06:56.079)
A few days later, my technology landed in my lap.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (07:00.521)
Hmm.

Kim Ressler (07:01.159)
And I was just like, wow, I think that I’ve just been gifted something. anyway, so with that said, I addressed my genetics and I literally, with the technology that I work with, I literally at first thought it had to be a placebo effect. I felt better than I had felt in 11 years.

It was the energy, was the sleep, it was the digestion, it was the less bloating, it was, I mean, everything. And at first I was like, okay, this has to be a placebo effect. Maybe it has been in my head, but no, mean, month two then, after addressing genetics, I didn’t feel as good. But by the time I’d been on my own customized formula, that’s what we’re talking about, right? For four months it was like,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (07:27.39)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (07:52.925)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (07:54.543)
Wow, I mean, I was still feeling better and better and better. anyway, one second, I’m on a podcast right now. Sorry, you’re have to clip that.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (08:05.31)
No, you’re totally good. I’m going to make a note of the time.

Kim Ressler (08:09.703)
Okay, I’m sorry. Anyway, so when I saw what it did for me, I literally, it was in my heart that I, now you have to understand I’d been retired for years, but I decided I needed to make it my mission to educate individuals about genetics, nutrigenomics, and that truly we are,

We all know what we know until we know something different, right? But we are totally, we are so in control of our health, but our health is so complicated. And unless you understood your strengths and your weaknesses, it’s not a scary thing. It’s just saying, hey, that is how we get to empower ourselves to ask the questions. So yes, I’ve made it my mission. I have committed the last seven years. I launched SNP Neutrogenomics in 2022.

before that I worked with the technology in a different capacity, but that is, I’ve, yeah, I’ve made it my mission to continue to educate, educate these, educate the masses that this technology is available. it is available to the masses and it’s affordable and it cuts out the guesswork. And that’s, that’s really where my heart sits is just to continue to educate. I want people to be able to have.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:17.906)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (09:33.927)
the best health outcomes that they want and to support them on that journey. I hope that, I mean, I’m sorry that story’s a little long, but yeah, it’s just, we, right now, personalization, it’s not just the future, it’s here. And that’s what people need to understand and know is that you aren’t, Leanne, you and I, you know, it doesn’t matter that we’re 99 % alike, the little 1 %

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:38.513)
I love it.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:42.893)
no.

Kim Ressler (10:03.845)
Like even we’re 99 % alike to a male, whether you’re female or male, but that little percent that makes us different, it is, it’s what says, you’re predisposed to developing these diseases or, know, and we can literally come in and understand that and ultimately offset for health span.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (10:29.66)
Yeah, it’s so exciting. Can you give us just broad brushstrokes of what SNP-NutriGenomics is, what the product is? Then I’m gonna kind of take us through the nuance of all of it. But just so that as people are listening, they go, okay, here’s what it is, here’s what we’re talking about, here’s what we’re diving into more.

Kim Ressler (10:41.018)
Absolutely.

Kim Ressler (10:46.969)
Absolutely. we all have our own DNA blueprint, right? It’s our instruction manual for how our bodies do things, how we grow, how we process, how we take these proteins and make all of our cells work, et cetera, right? Okay, so what SNP-Nutrogenomics looks at, we don’t look at genes that we can’t do anything about. So…

And there is a gene that tells us we have a propensity to have a unibrow, right? Okay. We can’t do anything about that one. I’m not going to be able to change your eye color or your hair color, right? But I look at nutrigenomics is the study of nutrition based on actionable genes. So what is an actionable… This is what SNP nutrigenomics does. We look at actionable genes, ones that impact your mood.

your cognitive function, heart markers, the body’s ability to detox, the big rage, methylation, oxidative stress, energy, we have to have energy, Gut health. So there’s multiple genes that impact that are what we call nutritionally actionable. And we know that there’s very specific plant-based nutrition, vitamins, minerals, micronutrients.

when you do have genetic variations. In other words, you might hear of a mutation, a glitch, right? But we know specifically what to give an individual to offset or to optimize the cellular function. Is that too high? Is that too high? Is that scientific? Okay.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (12:28.991)
Mm-hmm. No, no. And by the way, we love, I think we love getting in the science weeds a little bit. And I’ll, I’m usually pretty good at being able to go, I understand what you’re saying, but can we translate this for the audience? But I think that’s a really good place to start. also, had on a integrative genetic counselor a few weeks ago. So we also sort of laid the foundation for genetics in that conversation already, which I think will be really helpful coming into this. So that’s the product people are.

doing DNA testing, you’re getting that information. You are creating a customized. Multi-vitamin just for them. Now we’re going to dive into all of the nitty gritty of that. I, what I actually do want to start with and spend a little more time on with the start is let’s come back to nutrigenomics. What is this? And I have a couple more followup questions, but let’s just start there a little bit deeper.

Kim Ressler (13:23.225)
Okay, so nutrigenomics is the study of genetics and nutrition to virtually apply the nutrition based on those genetic variants to ultimately offset or prevent, you know, we want to keep the cell functioning at capacity. So let’s put this into context, if that’s okay. So,

Just think about it, and to anybody listening, you have a friend that went through a very, you know, there’s a lot of things that impact these genes working and not working, right? So let’s just say that you have a friend that recently was under a lot of stress, or we could say stress, or was recently exposed to a major forest fire, right?

These things impact us. Some people have, let’s say that forest fire, some people have the ability that if they were in that smoke for a few days to really just, their body has that ability to disseminate and because we need to detox what we’ve breathed in that’s not so good. Where the next person that’s in that smoke and maybe has genetic variances,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (14:22.387)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (14:49.291)
isn’t it’s not as good and maybe it causes them chronic sinusitis. Does that make sense? So or you’ve been or you’ve got that friend that went through a really, really stressful time and suddenly they’ve developed a sickness. And so there’s genes that we can impact that impact all of these systems to come in and support at that cellular level. Does that make sense?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (14:54.269)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (15:18.459)
Mm-hmm. That makes total sense. Here’s the question I need some clarification on for myself is because there’s kind of two facets where my mind is going. One is so I get what you’re saying. We can use nutrition to impact these genes and the variances in these genes so that we are still able to live an optimal life.

Kim Ressler (15:19.238)
Okay.

Kim Ressler (15:43.495)
Correct.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (15:43.995)
Is it also working in this other? Because when you say nutrigenomics, part of my mind goes, okay, does this also mean like my body isn’t able to use certain nutrients the same way? And are those two different things or am I actually saying the same thing?

Kim Ressler (15:59.067)
No, you were saying it correct. are, okay, so let’s give two examples, right? So there are two genes that we look at. One’s called the APOB and one’s called the PON1. APOB has to do with healthy lipids in the body, right? We need cholesterol, but we wanna keep our cholesterol in check, right? I mean, the body absolutely needs cholesterol, but we wanna keep it in check. If we have genetic variants on the APOB,

and the PON1 is how we detox the bad cholesterol, right? If we have variants, the body may not be able to do that as well, right? The APOB knows the very specific plant-based nutrition that I can give you to help, that has been scientifically validated, artichoke extract, green tea extract, et cetera. It’s plant-based nutrition that I can give to optimize that gene, okay? So that’s a true statement about your first…

But then we know that the, and I’m not gonna go to methylation, we’re gonna talk about the NQ01 gene, has to do with CoQ10, okay? We know that when you don’t have it, we all need CoQ10. It’s something that we naturally produce in our bodies and then we stop. We need it for energy and heart health, et cetera. All right, well, depending on if you have genetic variants, you may need it in one format.

You may need both formats. So let’s talk about that. I’m sure a lot of people have heard of CoQ10. And if you don’t have a variant, your body can take and utilize ubiquinone. And if you have variants, you either need combination of both or your body can only utilize and absorb ubiquinol. But unless you understood your genetics, you wouldn’t know that. And that’s where we take all of that guesswork out. So yes, you are correct in both statements. One.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:55.731)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (17:55.835)
There’s plant-based nutrition that’s been scientifically validated to optimize cellular expression. Two, some of it is very much as it relates to specific formats of vitamins, minerals, micronutrients. Yes. So those statements were true.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:11.583)
Okay. I love that. Yeah. When I think that’s, that is a really important distinction because it’s more, it’s more than just, I’m going to take this particular thing in this way. So my body can absorb that thing better. goes even beyond that too. And because you have these genetic variations, these are some ingredients, plant-based ingredients we are going to put in your customized protocol.

that you will, you you’re always going to want as a support because you have this genetic mutation or variation and to that end, but we’re also going to give it to you in the exact way your body needs it and in the exact dosage your body needs.

Kim Ressler (18:54.939)
That is exactly correct, you just said it all. We can see that, we know it, we know what you need, why you need it, in the format you need it, in the dose that you need it, and we can put it all into one.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:57.681)
Okay, beautiful.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:10.685)
Yeah. that’s so wild. so we, do want to get a little bit more into, listened to some of previous episodes you had done and I think this is just interesting. It might be a bit high level, but I still think it’s interesting to cover in our conversation. So what are the genes you test? And you already did give us a bit of the different systems you’re looking at, but could you read it? Reiterate the 10 main systems you are supporting.

Kim Ressler (19:34.471)
10 main systems. So we actually test 103 actionable genes, okay? And we do report on them. We custom compound on 22, okay? I’ve only got so much in a jar. And what we’re hitting is we’re hitting the heaviest hitting actionable genes that are commonly found in the population that, and again, we’re not going after disease, we’re going after genes

that ultimately impact adult onset disease. So the 10 systems that we’re looking at, right? We look at healthy body mass index, cardiovascular health, and brain function, the body’s ability to detox, energy, gut and microbiome, so immune, the healthy immune response, a healthy inflammatory response, methylation,

and mood. Those are the 10 major key areas that we impact. Do we impact others? Yes. But this is where our science lies and it’s kind of, it’s virtually everything in the body.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (20:49.509)
well, at the very least, it’s the foundation of everything in the body. So if you’re affecting those systems, there is going to be a ripple effect on everything.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:00.575)
I love this because something I put in my notes to highlight for the audience is there’s a lot of talk around methylation and making sure if you have that variant, take methylated vitamins. And I wanted to just say for the audience, this goes so far beyond just taking a methylated vitamin.

Kim Ressler (21:03.303)
Thanks.

Kim Ressler (21:18.915)
It does. It does. So in reality, everybody’s talking about the MTHFR gene and methylation. So let’s explain what that is. First, in layman’s terms, methylation is our aging process. It turns on and off everything, right? Back in the day, put folic, they, because it was good and convenient, right? They put folic acid into store bought breads, breakfast cereals, all kinds of things.

However, if you’ve got markers on this gene, you cannot take and convert folic acid to the bioactive format in your body. again, remember, methylation turns on and off everything. So if it’s not functioning properly, maybe you’re not detoxing, maybe the immune system doesn’t know when to shut off. The thing is, we can’t just go after one gene. All of these start working as a beautiful symphony together.

and you can’t just address methylation. You have to address oxidative stress, gut health, the detail. They all work together. That’s why you cannot just address just methylation.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (22:32.979)
Yeah, it’s a whole symphony that’s happening exactly. And it’s beautiful that there’s more conversation around methylation and there’s more education around it. And I know so many clients and friends who learning that about themselves really changed how they take supplements. But to your point, that’s one piece of the puzzle. There’s so many other pieces that are working in symphony with that that we want to be able to address. already that makes me so excited hearing about those 10 systems and going, hang on.

So you’re telling me you’re creating a custom product for me that is like guaranteed to address all of those symptoms, not symptoms, excuse me, systems based on what my genetic makeup is for each of those. I mean, that is so profound.

Kim Ressler (23:11.431)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (23:18.343)
Yeah. And you know, it’s not, what we do is not meant or intended to be the end all be all. We already talked to the beginning. Genetic mapping has been around for a long time. was what your really wealthy did, right? you know, I hate to say that, I mean, but you know, it’s just true. And then you’d get your genetic, you’d…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:25.565)
Yeah.

Kim Ressler (23:41.765)
get the genetic map and then they’d start, okay, you’re gonna take these six supplements this month and then we’re gonna step you into something else and then suddenly you’re on 60 things. I’m sorry, the masses can’t do that. It’s still, I mean, a whole bunch of jars, it’s confusion, it’s costly, it’s pill fatigue, you can’t stick with that. So you just can’t. And then you’re confused because it says, if you’re trying to do it yourself,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:50.963)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (24:11.621)
if you’ve got this gene, you need this, but if you have this gene, don’t take that. Okay, well now that’s even more mass confusion. So yeah, that’s what we’ve done is we’ve nailed it down to truly understand based on dosing, how all of this starts to work together. And again, it’s not meant, if you have a specific condition, I’m here to cover you foundationally with plant-based nutrition, vitamins, minerals, micronutrients. And if you’ve got a specific condition,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (24:18.697)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (24:41.197)
You may have to take something else, but I am going to cover your foundation.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (24:45.627)
Mm-hmm. I love it. Can you tell us the process from A to Z when someone comes to your website? What are they doing? What’s happening? What can they expect? What’s the timeline?

Kim Ressler (24:56.823)
Absolutely. So I think let’s start with genetic testing, right? And let’s talk about that. Somebody would buy a DNA test kit first. know that people are apprehensive, maybe apprehensive about their genetics. We are completely HIPAA compliant. Our labs, CLIA certified and CAP accredited. We actually own our own panel at the lab. we aren’t looking, we’re not doing full genome testing. I’m interested in actionable genes only.

That’s what I’m interested in. So you become a de-identified barcode. So just saying, your name isn’t even attached to it. So what happens is you purchase a DNA test kit. It’s a buccal swab. It’s a cheek swab. we do swab both sides of our cheek with two separate swabs. I need skin cells. And then you mail that to the lab. So time-wise, three to.

three days to a week to get the DNA test kit, then you mail it to the lab. Once it gets to the lab, it goes into processing. And it takes, the labs contracted for 21 business days, but right now they’ve been yielding out results to us, I’d say in 12 to 14. From there then, all of these beautiful reports, when the results come in, they funnel right into your own password protected private portal. And inside there,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (26:13.916)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (26:23.943)
You would get a summary report, the code report, the code report lines up to tell you exactly how we do this, which has got your name on it. And then we tell you, as we were talking, genes don’t just have one function. One gene may function in literally eight or nine of those body systems. And so we break it down and we tell you about how we’re going to custom compound for you.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (26:34.237)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (26:53.989)
And then we tell you how this gene plays a role in inflammation, detoxification, et cetera. And so we have extended reports. So if you are, this just gives you that roadmap. Hey, I’ve been focused on XYZ and that I’ve been focused on my weight. And in reality, my problem seems to lie in inflammation, detoxification and methylation. So maybe that weight problem that you’ve had

is actually because you’re not detoxing and you’re not, you understand, right? So we want to give people that roadmap so they can see, these are my biggest weaknesses. This is where I need to focus. And this is how this is going to impact me just so I can get to that, you know, the goal that I’m looking to get to easier. That make sense?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:48.561)
Yeah. Well, and what I love about this too is it’s beyond just the customized multivitamin that they’re getting. All of those reports and information are also information they can take to their doctors, their practitioners, help them tweak their other health protocols or habits as well beyond just the supplement.

Kim Ressler (28:09.765)
Absolutely. now timeline when somebody then gets their reports, that’s when we can custom compound for them and when they get the reports the From the date that you order the product doesn’t sit on a shelf. It’s literally made live for the individual so it can take up to three weeks to receive it because every single time I run a batch That’s what we call it a batch

I have to send it to third party testing before I ship your product to you. Ingredients and the quality of ingredients are very important to me. We third party test from raws to the blends to the final product. It’s tested three times before it comes to you.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:55.973)
Mm-hmm. I wanted you to touch on that because that was for two reasons. One for the audience to understand or for the customer to understand, there’s a reason it takes time for this product to get to you. It’s not Amazon. And part of the reason it takes time beyond just the testing is you do this third party testing, which I absolutely love. And what is that third party testing looking for to kind of make sure isn’t there?

Kim Ressler (29:10.91)
yeah, it’s.

Kim Ressler (29:24.751)
No mold, mold spores, toxins, pesticides, heavy metals, all of those things that we don’t want to be putting in our body unbeknownst to us, right? So yeah, I mean, we need to make sure that there’s no pesticides that are present, no mold, et cetera.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (29:46.759)
Yeah. And then say a little bit more about the quality of the ingredients, because you were speaking about this on another podcast too, and I had to make sure we got this in here.

Kim Ressler (29:55.847)
Well, I mean, we source from around the world, but again, we third party test raws when they come in. I mean, it happens once that we were sent broccoli powder or whatever, and we went and tested it. It wasn’t even broccoli. Okay. So that’s why this is why this is so important. I don’t know if there’s something specific I said, but we need to know that we are taking, we use a lot of registered trademark products as well.

because of the quality, the science behind them, the research, et cetera, that we really, we want to know that I am literally bringing to you a product that is very clean. We don’t use fillers in it. And when you see at the bottom of the supplement fact panel, if you get it, we do it in raw powder, which is very earthy. We aren’t gonna flavor it. It’s medicinal, right?

Or we do it in VeggieCap. And if you get to the bottom of your supplement back panel, it says other ingredients. It literally says hypermellos capsules, which are VeggieCaps, and chlorophyllin is the natural green color of plants. That’s it. We don’t put fillers into the product. And it is a very robust, complex product. Is there something I said before that you loved?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (31:17.531)
Yeah, I just think that was it. Well, talking about the fillers, talking about the testing, even as you said, we received ingredients that weren’t even what they were supposed to be. I do think as much, as much as I love the integrative world and the supplement world, and I am all for supplements, we do just have to realize there’s a lot of things out there that aren’t being tested, that aren’t being looked at. And when we’re putting things in our body, we really want to know what is actually

being put in and especially for those of us over here in the integrative holistic world, supplements are a huge part of that and they’re an amazing resource and I think there’s more discernment we need to bring to that.

Kim Ressler (31:58.371)
Absolutely, mean third party testing is so important. It is, it’s so important. You want to trust. You want to trust what you’re putting in your body is what they say it is and that it’s not something that it’s not.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (32:11.08)
Yeah.

Yeah. So once all the genetic testing comes in, does the product just get automatically created or is that a step in the process on the customers and that they then need to approve the compounding?

Kim Ressler (32:25.573)
So that is left to the consumer. One thing I’m really proud of is we don’t lock you in to any. We don’t lock a consumer into anything. You can choose to order the product at the time that you order the DNA test kit, or you can choose to go on a subscription at the time. But even when your results are delivered, we still give you five days to take a

take a look at it and make sure, hey, this is what your formula looks like and your order’s gonna run in five days. So you get to make that choice and then if you wanna order it early, you can order it early and start the production of it. When somebody does go on a subscription though, we’re not committing them either. You do save $20 when you go on a subscription with us per month, but…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:06.015)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (33:16.519)
you know, if let’s just say you were that sensitive person, you had to start slow and not take a full dose and need to push it out. We want to be on the health journey with people. We want to support them where they’re at. And some people, we don’t get sick overnight, we don’t heal overnight, we know that. And yes, somebody that has a high histamine response, allergic to a lot of things because something’s going on in their body, they may need to go slow. And so yeah, we

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:45.491)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (33:46.125)
move it around. yeah, our goal is to go with people on the journey. So.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:49.939)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:54.803)
Completely to that end, what should people have in mind though, in terms of observing changes, expecting results? I was listening to, well, first of all, I’d love to hear some of your customer testimonials because you shared an amazing one about a woman related to iron and needing iron infusions. But you also were talking about, just as you just said, we don’t get sick overnight. We also don’t heal overnight. You want to be able to give yourself.

Kim Ressler (34:11.611)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:23.357)
I think it’s super interesting to test your labs to see how this product is impacting you. And we don’t want to test too soon because you’re just testing the same blood.

Kim Ressler (34:33.307)
That’s correct, that’s good. so customer testament, well for me, unbeknownst to me, let’s go back to my story just so we understand. Unbeknownst to me, I had been living for 11 years with not one but two auto-immunes. Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:42.932)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:48.479)
Wow, that could be genetically tested, not just symptom based.

Kim Ressler (34:52.231)
Well, I mean, one of them, I have Hashimoto’s and all of those years at that provider, never tested me properly. Okay? So when I addressed my genetics, as I said, I felt better. I felt so much better when I applied the personalized approach.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (35:05.318)
Uh-huh.

Kim Ressler (35:15.459)
my energy, my sleep, my digestion. I mean, I could go on and on. I, to this day now, and I’m not saying, this is me, this is Kim, I’m my own individual. I live pharmaceutical free, okay? I feel good. I don’t, and I’m not saying that we’re gonna take somebody off a thyroid medication. I was never on it, right? But.

And the other thing that I do have, I mean, I don’t have symptoms, okay? So one, that’s me. And I’ll share some stories. Ways to track it, like you said, are symptoms. We all tend to forget that, you know, how we were craving so much sugar or how bad our sleep was and now it’s better, but we have symptom trackers. And the other way that you can track it is, yeah, standard and common blood work. CMP, CBC.

C-reactive protein, and that’s inflammation, vitamin D serum levels. You can do heart rate variability, heart sound recorder, et cetera. Those are lot of different ways that you can track. I’m gonna share a testimony from, was provided to me from a provider from her client. She said, have a client that needs to talk to you. And I said, to me? And I said, is there something wrong? And she said,

So this provider has a patient and the patient has a son who’s now 29 years old. Autistic, stimming, pacing, panic attacks, terrible panic attacks. Anyway, she waited almost a year to try this product with her son. As she says, know, is it just the next thing? I’ve tried everything and…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (37:05.747)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (37:06.567)
you know, he would get in a quote unquote, what we call a methyl trap and it would create more anxiety and everything else. And he couldn’t do it for more than a week or two. Anyway, she tried to her this young man on our product. And she said she noticed differences immediately within a couple of days. And in about two and a half weeks, this virtually nonverbal child is speaking full sentences to his mother. The panic attacks have drastically reduced.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (37:34.003)
Holy cow.

Kim Ressler (37:36.935)
Then into the provider’s office, walking into the provider’s office, he’s never spoke to the ladies at the front desk and just says, hi, how are you today? And I mean, it’s drastically different. His behavior is different. There’s not a delay. He’s been telling his mom how busy his brain’s been. Now, am I to say that every child that’s had this is going, no, that’s been his reaction.

But then you see there’s a company called Genova Diagnostics. They have something called a NutriEval. And she did that with him about two and half months after on the product. And I tell people, it four months. Like you said, NutriEval is a little different. If I could share him on here, but night and day difference on his NutriEval of what he’s, you know, the results in two and a half months are mind boggling.

So you can see it both in behavior, his stature, he’s speaking, less, like I said, less panic attacks. The child’s doing amazing. That’s one story.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (38:48.689)
It’s huge. That’s quality of life.

Kim Ressler (38:52.697)
Yeah, mean, that’s the mother has said, she goes, I used to think I’m getting older and how are we going to continue to support him? But she goes, now I’m looking at it, what might be possible for him now that he’s communicating more?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (39:08.435)
Yeah, that is so powerful. Can you share the story of the woman with the iron? Was it blood transfusions?

Kim Ressler (39:16.007)
She, okay, so we have a client we’ve been tracking now for over three years and she had been genetically mapped because a lot of times we find when people have a problem with methylation, their ferritin levels, they may be, they’re more prone to be anemic, right? Anyway, she had addressed her…

Methylation pathway and she was doing with a ton of off-the-shelf stuff, but still every six months She was her iron levels were so low. She was having to go in for Iron infusions and this was you had to go in get this iron infusion I can’t remember the actually every so many a couple days It took a few days to do it and she’d have to do five iron infusions every six months

And since she has been on the customized product, as I said, it’s not just methylation. It’s all of these micronutrients and everything to fill in to ultimately bring the body back to factory settings, right? She has not had to have an iron infusion since she’s been on her customized product. That’s inter… Yeah. Yeah. It is multiple years. Yeah. So, I mean, the stories from…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:31.945)
which is now multiple years.

So amazing. Huge, huge.

Kim Ressler (40:40.131)
energy to better sleep. When the body is in homeostasis and it’s got the proper nutrients at a cellular level and you needed to release some weight, your body’s ready to release it when we’re sleeping better. So you start to see it all, like we said, it’s this symphony that everything starts working together and…

Like I said, that’s what we want. We want to help bring it back to factory settings. Give the body what it needs. The body can do what it needs to do.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (41:14.779)
Mm-hmm. Okay, still a few more follow-up questions because I gotta cover all the bases.

Kim Ressler (41:18.244)
Absolutely. And I’ve got tons more stories, so you just tell me. mean, whether it’s reduced cholesterol levels, you know, and we actually have people sending in their before and after blood work to show what’s happened.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (41:23.467)
my gosh.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (41:32.85)
Yeah

I just love that, you know what it got me thinking for myself is my, I mean, pretty much my entire life, I have had very high creatine or creatinine in my kidneys and it always freaks out the doctors. And every time I’m like, look, it’s just always been this way. Everything seems to be working fine. And they never do, you know, they never put me on anything or do anything about it, but there’s a part of me that’s like, huh, cause I used to go, maybe my baseline is just higher than the standard baseline.

But in listening to that other episode you did, was like, I just wonder if there’s something genetic about this and, you know, if taking the snip customized product, that’s, that would be one marker that I could go back years and years. That’s always been in balance that I would want to see if it changed.

Kim Ressler (42:19.239)
And that would be fascinating. I would love to see that too.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:23.455)
So it’s kind of fun when you do have years and years of history of like, yeah, this thing has always been out of the norm for me. How could this affect that? So that was one little interesting thing for me.

Kim Ressler (42:38.267)
Yeah, I have seen some really good kidney stories too.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:39.326)
Yep.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:42.839)
really? my gosh, yeah. Out of, well okay, there’s like so many follow-up questions I can ask. I think what I, I do have this quick question.

Kim Ressler (42:50.883)
Again, aren’t going, aren’t, I think I just wanna clarify. We don’t go after disease. We go after these systems of the body to support the body to do what it needs to do naturally. So there’s no medical claims, there’s no, but this is, instead of you throwing darts, now you understand strengths, weaknesses. Now we know science is validated. These ingredients can support this area. And instead of you doing all the guesswork,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:57.684)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:02.793)
Yeah.

Kim Ressler (43:20.423)
You have it in front of you in one simple format.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:25.055)
Mm-hmm. Yes. What I wanted to get, well, even just have us talk about one is would you ever need to retest to have the formulation changed for any reason?

Kim Ressler (43:38.407)
No, that is the beauty of genetic testing and it’s one and done test. Now, let’s say down the road we decide to completely expand our panel, et cetera, which that’s not anywhere in the near future. Again, I’m not interested in genes that we can’t impact. I’m interested in actionable genes. And I believe we’ve really got it honed into the heaviest hitting ones that impact the masses.

They’re common. We’re not looking at rare genetic mutations that we can’t do anything. We’re looking at things we can do something about.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:08.606)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:17.969)
Yeah. And that are science backed by the evidence of there, there is scientific evidence that we can do something with this particular ingredient, nutrition, et cetera. So yeah, very, very intentional. Okay. Next follow-up question is how, how are you guys maybe a little bit different from other gene based supplement lines? I don’t actually know of any others, but in the episode I was listening to with you, it was two brothers and they were saying that

Kim Ressler (44:29.955)
Exactly, Yes, very interesting.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:48.113)
they did some genetic testing and supplementing with a different brand and their brothers and their genetics are very close, but of course they’re also different. And yet they were both sent the exact same product.

Kim Ressler (45:01.541)
Well, because that is what makes us different. We literally custom compound just for you based on your results. So where other companies may, they’ve got five products that sit on the shelf and if you’ve got this, you fall into this one, this one or this one, no, your name literally is on your jar. I can make upwards of a little over a billion different formulas, I believe it is. And your name is on the jar of exactly how, you know,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (45:19.13)
Okay.

Kim Ressler (45:31.719)
and your supplement fact panel is yours. My husband’s and mine look like night and day. Mine’s like four pages long, his is three. His genetics look different, right? I mean, I know that sounds funny, but the supplement fact panel, it’s long.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (45:38.973)
Ha ha ha!

Leigh Ann Lindsey (45:46.633)
Mm-hmm.

my gosh, I love that.

Kim Ressler (45:51.911)
And we work directly with the FDA on exactly how, you know, we’re totally FDA compliant. Like we work directly with them. They’re like, wait, you can customize? Yes. So it is the technology that we have. It is literally custom compound just for the person. That is truly what makes us different. And again, we’ve talked about it. Is it the end all be all? No, but this is a very robust complex to the microgram.

what science has proven based on your genetic variants to support you to optimize cellular expression.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:27.593)
Yeah, and can we lean in a little bit more into the level of specificity for the product? From what I understand, correct me if I’m wrong, it’s of course the ingredients that are going in there, but it’s beyond just that. It’s actually specific to the dosage of each ingredient and then the co-factors those ingredients might need. Is that all right?

Kim Ressler (46:36.646)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (46:51.513)
Yes. I mean, no, that’s the thing. Okay, so let’s go back to methylation and you say that, somebody needs methylated vitamins or they need a reduced folate and that means it’s in the bioactive format, right? So you don’t just need the folate, you need choline and you need TMG. It makes everything work better. It’s just like vitamin D3, K2 and calcium. There’s different co-factors that

make things work better for you when you have these genetic variants. So we know that too. So we’re not, but we’re not sending you a bucket list of, here’s these 73 ingredients you need, go get them. We literally take it and make it.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:27.6)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:34.846)
Well, totally.

Yeah, and just like to get even more hyper specific here, I know I’m beating a dead horse, but I mean, is it, sounds like it’s specific even to the extent of you could go, these two people have the same genetic variants. So they need whatever I’m making something random up this specific type of vitamin D, but it’s even more specific than that. It’s this person needs 8,000 IU of vitamin D a day. And this person needs 12.

Kim Ressler (48:05.199)
Right, that is correct. Based on your genetic variants. mean, some people can do great with 2000 IU’s of vitamin D a day, right? Where other people that I’m that person, my markers on my vitamin D receptors, when I go out and stand in the sun, because I love that, again, we once spoke, I tell people go out and ground and stand in the sun for 10, 15 minutes, but I can’t convert.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (48:07.443)
That’s blowing my mind.

Kim Ressler (48:34.644)
the vitamin D very well from it to a bioactive format from the sun in my body. I have to supplement and I have to supplement more.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (48:41.299)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just I really wanted people to understand that it’s not just you have this genetic variant so you need this ingredient and Everyone who has that variant gets that ingredient in the same dosage. It is so hyper specific, which really just blows my mind

Kim Ressler (49:00.091)
Yeah, it is.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:01.929)
To that end, think a good place to start to close though is, as you’ve said, this is a piece of the puzzle. It’s covering the foundations of wellness and how, I hear a lot of people maybe in the backgrounds of their mind going, but I don’t wanna, like there’s some supplements I wanna keep in my routine. How might people be using the SNP nutrition in conjunction with maybe other supplements that are part of health protocols for different reasons?

Kim Ressler (49:30.619)
Well, I I think that’s the thing. think if there’s something that they’re taking because their provider told them or that they love, great, keep taking it if that’s what you want to do. I always tell people to compare your supplement fact panel to maybe what you’re currently taking. And then yes, you can create your own stack. But too much is too much, right? More is not more.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:43.795)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:50.793)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:54.386)
More is not more.

Kim Ressler (49:56.959)
And we do do what we call micro dosing. Why? Because these cells can, they take all these little nutrients and they keep, they get them consistently and they understand, and the body knows what to do with food, right? But for me, my stack, my stack is my customized and a good complex, a complex omega. Why? My doctor told me I can see based on your results and,

you’ve got, I’ve got all the heart markers there are, it would really be beneficial for you to take a good complex omega. So I’ve got simple omegas in the product, but I am not going to be the robust complex omega. That’s my stack. That’s my daily in and out stack. It’s not to say that if my daughter doesn’t come home sick from school, that I might not take some extra liposomal vitamin C on occasion or something like that.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:51.102)
Mm-hmm.

Kim Ressler (50:52.039)
But yeah, I mean you can this is it’s not I’m not Meant and intended to be the like I said the end-all be-all if you have specific amino acids you like If you like I said that Omega my daughter on the flip side who’s 17 overachieving and she’s a worrier and You know, she she’s prone to having gun issues. She’s on her customized. I’ve got her on a that

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:10.206)
Mm-hmm

Kim Ressler (51:19.015)
plus a tributary and a structured aloe to help with the inflammation in the gut. Night and day difference. So, you know, that’s just to say, I mean, I’m not going to be, if you have a specific condition or you need a specific type of something because of a condition, that would be that our goal is that maybe you have two to three or four jars on the counter versus 50 or 60.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:24.082)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:46.627)
Yes, completely, completely. Well, and to that end, this is where I think the responsibility and the critical thinking does come in from our customer end of going, this is amazing, this covers so many of the bases, and let me talk with my doctor. Again, as we talked about before, I work with so many individuals experiencing cancer and chronic illness, so they’re often on very robust protocols, massive supplement lists.

And so I think there are so many supplements. I actually really do think there are a good chunk of supplements they might be able to pare down because of how nuanced your product is. And then they’re gonna be able to be taking that thing. And then the other things they’re taking are really some of those other specific things they might need for cancer, whatever it might be.

Kim Ressler (52:34.833)
Right. mean, that’s the whole goal is we all only have 24 hours in the day and we all don’t have unlimited resources. Right. So it’s understanding, applying, making it simpler for ourselves and to be able to hone in on that. so that it’s not this massive pill fatigue. So.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:58.207)
Totally, oh 100%. I mean, I remember when I had early stage breast cancer in 2020, which got me on this whole journey, I had to make a supplement schedule that I would print out like pre-breakfast, these five supplements at breakfast, in between breakfast and lunch, empty stomach, at dinner, before, I mean, it really gets quite wild. And sometimes there is a time and a place for that, but that’s, I don’t think that needs to be our.

Daily lived experience once we’re out of deep treatment phase either so this just gets me so excited I I had my coordinator when I came across you guys. I was like Kelly we must have them on the show People need to hear about this

Kim Ressler (53:31.623)
Yeah.

Kim Ressler (53:40.135)
Yeah, no, I this is what this is why we are so passionate about education Because it is we are so programmed everybody is I mean I I mean I was I and still we all know what we know until we know something different Right, but we are programmed you have a headache take an Advil Right. Neutrogenomics is not that Neutrogenomics is hey, here’s your strengths. Here’s your weaknesses. Let’s support

where all the weaknesses are so that those cells can continue to function optimally. Healthy cells, healthy tissues, equal healthy organs, equal healthy you. So it’s a little bit, it’s a little different. It’s not that pill for the ill. It’s let’s go to the cellular level and support you.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (54:25.769)
rates.

And that is one of the things we talked about with the Integrative Genetics Counselor that we had on is genes can get turned on and turned off. And when we bring in these supports, you can sometimes make sure, the analogy she gave, which I thought was really good is the genetics are like a manual. And when your body goes to read that manual, it is following those instructions. And so,

we can use things like lifestyle and habits and nutrigenomics to make sure the body isn’t reading faulty manuals.

Kim Ressler (55:00.603)
That is so, that’s a great analogy. I love that. Yes, that is so correct. mean, we know, and just like you said, nutrigenomics and nutrition are very important, but they’re one spoke in the wheel of that whole, of all of it too. So, whether it’s your mindset and the water that you’re drinking, the air you’re breathing, moving your bodies, we need to move our bodies. I mean, there’s so many components, but…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (55:28.222)
Yeah.

Kim Ressler (55:30.223)
Yes, it is your instruction manual and when you can see that, it’s not the scary thing. mean, the first time I saw my genetics, was like, my goodness. I was like, I have all the heart marks. It made sense. mean, my grandmother passed away from congestive heart failure. My grandfather died of coronary artery disease.

But once I saw this and understood and when you go start reading the science, if you have these predispositions and you know science has proven that if we address some of these genetic variants, we can get up to 20 years of healthier living. Is that amazing? That’s amazing.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (56:09.747)
Mm-hmm. Yes. Totally. And that’s kind of the point is that it, I think it sounds like people can have very, very quick changes in symptoms and in their quality of life in the day to day. But the, the, where I go and zoom out even further is when you’re addressing these foundational things on a regular basis, you are expanding that window of tolerance for your body. You’re creating so much resilience so that

when you are exposed to different things, you’re not, things aren’t building up and building up and building up. Cause that’s really where illness comes from is I think a buildup over time of so many different contributing factors. And so this is just like giving you a baseline.

Kim Ressler (56:49.883)
Right?

Absolutely. It’s either that or it was maybe something traumatic. mean, that just that if you want this story that, you know, we have a lady that

what spurred on her health conditions was a horrendous car accident. suddenly she was allergic to everything and chronic gut issues and joint mobility issues. And that had been going on for years and years and years, like 25 years. And he slowly addressed her genetics. She’s literally been able to reverse everything. She can eat food now.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:09.791)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:25.692)
Yeah

Kim Ressler (57:33.421)
She can eat, I mean, you know, so the body, but it was from something, remember, that epigenetically happened, that lifestyle thing, that car crash that she didn’t mean. So.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:33.586)
Yeah

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:44.881)
Yeah. Yeah. That turns something on or turn something off. Yeah, completely. But just to that end, it’s especially, I know my audience and myself, we are all in in our health. Most of us are spending a fair chunk of change every month on our wellness. But I just think, especially when it comes to supplements to be able to go, I, yeah, turmeric’s great. I need to work in this way with this cofactors of this dosage. And I know I’m getting that perfect one every time.

That is such a game changer to me that will save all of us so much money knowing we’re getting exactly what we need. So like I said, Kim, I’m just, really excited. I’m super, super impressed.

Kim Ressler (58:26.545)
Thank you. This has been great. I love continuing to share and educate. So I can’t thank you enough for having me on with you today. I love what you do as well. mean, understanding that our minds are so, so, so important with all of this as well, right?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (58:46.419)
Yeah, absolutely. Was there anything we didn’t cover that you feel is really, important to mention? Otherwise, if not, just give us where people can find more, the website, I’ll make sure it’s all linked below.

Kim Ressler (58:58.503)
So, yeah, make sure it’s linked below. It’s snipnutrition.com forward slash a crescent or you’ll have it in the link, right? The thing is, I think big thing to know is there are additional genes that we do test and we create quick reference guides. So we do give more information inside the portal. We do a lot of free education every single month.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (59:09.424)
Yeah, yeah.

Kim Ressler (59:25.767)
Again, this isn’t, hey, we want to go on, hey, we’re happy to have you. No, no, we want to go on the journey with you. So we do do these live calls monthly with our scientific advisor, opening it up for Q &A. know, what one topic may be interesting to you and another topic may not. And that’s why we continue to develop additional education around topics, whether it be, you menopause.

recycling our estrogen, bone health, et cetera. So, you know, there’s other topics that we continue to educate on. you know, truly snipnutrition.com forward slash crescent. I think that’s what you’ll put in the thing. And I think you wanted to offer, if they do want to get a DNA test, you want to offer a discount. I mean, do you want to talk about that?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:00:19.967)
Sure, and I’ll make sure it’s in the intro too. But yeah, if you use the code LeighAnn and I’ll make sure it’s linked in the show notes, you’ll get $25 off, which is super generous. Thank you so much, Kim.

Kim Ressler (01:00:28.007)
Perfect. Perfect.

no, we want to make this technology affordable to the masses. That’s what we want to do. And we want to also make it so that this robust complex compound that’s made for you is also affordable, ongoing, not just, I did that once, right?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:00:53.149)
Yeah, I think so. And when you really kind of do the math with all of it, it makes so much sense. So I love that. Thank you so much for giving all of us your time.

Kim Ressler (01:01:01.743)
No, thank you. No, thank you. This has been great to be here with you, Leigh Ann.