THE ACCRESCENT™ PODCAST EPISODE 190

Ep. 190 FINAL

[00:00:00] Hello, welcome back to the Accrescent Podcast. I’m your host, Leigh Ann Lindsey. Today we have a very, very special guest on the show, Erin Claire Jones. Erin Claire Jones is one of the world’s leading experts in human design. Through her coaching content and digital products, she has empowered hundreds of thousands of people to overcome their biggest obstacles and find their flow at work.

In love and in life. Her personalized guides have been purchased by customers in over 160 countries. She has spoken on stages across the world, and her work has been featured in Forbes , the Sunday Times, Vogue, allure, nylon, and more. I have followed Erin for so many years now. Human design has been something that I found absolutely life changing for me.

It’s, it’s like a personality test, but it’s also not that simple. I think the, the simplest way I could describe it, or I’ve heard it described is human [00:01:00] design is like your authentic energetic blueprint. It’s how your energy is meant to be used in a day. And I have done so many different personality tests over the years.

Myers-Briggs, Enneagram. Any number of different things and all of none of them have felt very authentic or practical to me. The other kind of shtick I have with personality tests, at least ones that are self-administered, meaning you’re answering questions about yourself, is I don’t think they distinguish between is this who I authentically am versus is this who I adapted to be because of my childhood and trauma and the dynamics I grew up in?

And so I think human design is the flip of that. It’s not a self-administered question test that we’re filling out. You’re putting in your date, date and time of birth and location of birth, and it pulls from a number of different practices. And all that [00:02:00] being said, I have found human design to be so practical and actionable.

It has led to really significant changes in how I. Connect with friends and family, how I have structured my business. And that is a lot of what we talk about in today’s episode with Erin. Something else I should say is that Erin has, first of all, her new book. How Do You Choose, is Launching Tomorrow. So Monday is the day this episode is releasing.

You guys might all be listening to this on Monday, but her book, her book goes live May 13th. How do You Choose? And it is making human design super, super practical for the average person. We talk about how most books on human design on the market are more geared towards training practitioners. They’re not really geared for the average individual.

So we’ll make sure that her book is linked in the show notes below, but also if you just want a little bit of a a starting place. On her website, human [00:03:00] design blueprint.com. You can put in your birth information and purchase your human design blueprint. This is like a 60 page handbook, specifically explaining your design, how you’re meant to attract opportunities, how you’re meant to connect with people in romantic relationships.

So many different things. And it’s so funny because I purchased Erin’s Human Design Blueprint years ago, and so it kind of feels like a manifestation come true. Having her on the podcast to talk about human design and her work so much more in depth. So definitely check the show notes below for links to the blueprint to her new book, and please enjoy this conversation with Erin Claire Jones.

Well, Erin, welcome to the Crescent Podcast. This is, you’re kind of a, a dream guest to have on, so this is really exciting for me. Wow, that’s so sweet of you to say. I’m really happy to be here with you. Human design has been so [00:04:00] impactful for me, but I do, it’s still one of those things for me that I find difficult to explain to others exactly what it is or how it works.

So I find myself not talking about it that often. Mm-hmm. Unless I’m like really one-on-one with someone and I’m like, Ooh, I feel like human design is something that could help you through what you’re telling me or struggling with right now. So I think this is gonna be really fun to get more nuanced and a deeper description to all of this.

So I think a great right place to start is just what is human design. Sometimes when I’m explaining it to others, I explain it as a type of personality test, but that, I feel goes much, much deeper than that. But is that even an accurate way to explain it? If not, how else would you explain it? I think it’s totally an accurate way.

I think that I would maybe just add the word mystical, um, because I think a lot of personality assessments are based on questionnaires, you know, or you kind of self-assess like the Enneagram or the Myers-Briggs. So human design for those that are new is based on your [00:05:00] time, date, and place of birth. So basically is a system that reveals how you’re wired to thrive in every part of your life.

From relationships to career, to parenting, to marketing. It basically gives you your own kind of personalized roadmap to finding your own flow. And I will say, you know. For those skeptics out there, because I’m sure there’ll be some, I hope there are some. You know, I think what matters most to me is not whether human design is true, but whether it’s useful.

And so even if you’re like, how could I know this much for my birth information? I still encourage you if you feel inspired to kind of really just see what you are and take a look and ask yourself like, does this feel useful? Does it resonate? Because I find that often kind of my most skeptical clients are the ones that fall in love with it the most because it is just so specific.

They’re like, how in the world could you ever know this about me? But you do. So tell me everything you know. Completely. Yes. There’s so many pieces of this I’m excited to get into, but yes, I think I, I tend to be one of those people that picks and chooses. I tend to not, you know, use one [00:06:00] thing as my compass and North Star that I reference everything back to.

I like to pick and choose from all the different things. But with that said, human design to me is kind of the only personality test. If we’re using that term, that I feel is the one I go back to the most and is the most practical and actionable in terms of how I can integrate this. Exactly, and I think, you know, that’s why I fell in love with human design.

I will say that like I love all the systems, you know, like I think they’re all amazing in their own way. But I think what really drew me to human design is how practical it was. And not only gave me this super juicy, very specific, hyper-personalized information all about me, but it gave me tools, tools to actually integrate it into my decision making, into how I showed up romantically with my community, with my family.

And so I felt like I. Could just change my life because it just gave me all the tools to do it. And so that felt actually very rare for me when it kind of comes to the realm of personality assessments. Mm-hmm. [00:07:00] Some of the ways I’ve heard it described is, or sometimes how I often describe it is it’s how your energy is meant to be used.

It’s almost a personality test for your energy type. Um, in one of your other episodes you did in the description, it had said something like energetic, DNA. Yeah. And I loved that phrase, but for someone who’s, okay, I’m hearing you, it’s helpful, it’s actionable, but how is this going to potentially create positive impact in my life?

How would you describe it of here’s what human design is so helpful or great for. Well, I think exactly like you said, I think it returns us to a way of operating that is far more authentic and natural. You know, I can’t tell you how often I’ve sat with clients who are building a business, so they work with some business coach who’s been really successful and they try to emulate what that coach has done and it doesn’t work for them.

And it’s not because that coach is wrong, it’s because. That coach is different and something different’s gonna work for them than for my client. And so I think human design helps them know like, how are you actually wired to build a business? What’s a way of marketing that’s most effective for you? [00:08:00] How can you make decisions in a way that is ease, useful and aligned, and in a way you can trust every single time?

Like what are your specific needs and relationships? How can you find and create the best opportunities? What are the challenges you’re gonna run up against most often, and how do you overcome them? So I think the positive impact it can have in your life is basically anchoring you into a way of navigating relationships and career that will likely feel way better and also be far more successful.

Mm-hmm. And I think that’s definitely been the case for me of just like, oh, this feels so much better and is so much more sustainable. And so again, it kind of extends to every part of your life, but that’s what it will offer. Like how can you actually show up to each of these parts of your life specifically in a way that really feels good?

I, I found that it gave me a lot of permission because I think many of us intuitively can feel what I’m being told I could do the, the conventional template for how I’m supposed to move through career relationships are entrepreneurship isn’t working and it [00:09:00] can so often start to manifest as I feel like, well, I’m just not being disciplined enough.

I’m just not working hard enough. I just, whatever. Then, you know, complete the sentence is, and for me, getting into human design, particularly with business and entrepreneurship especially, I found, gave me so much freedom and peace and permission and what, you know, I’m sure we’ll get into the types a bit.

Totally. But my type isn’t, isn’t meant to sometimes work in long, long stints. I find that I work better in shorter stints and. I had a lot of stigma around, but I, eight hours a day, I should be working eight hours a day. How dare I not work eight hours a day? And yet what I found with human design is when you live within your energetic authenticity, you can be just as productive and impactful and effective, if not more.

Yeah. And yet live with such ease, I think. Exactly. Oh, totally. Yeah. And it’s just, again, it’s, it’s so specific. It’s like how can you structure your day to day in a way that actually works for you? Can you actually confirm your [00:10:00] type because I’m worried I have the wrong one. Manifesting generator. Okay, good.

I have, okay, good. I just wanna make sure I was like, well, this is what we’ll talk about. Okay, good. A little bit is like how, this is what I’m a little bit excited to get into is how trauma and wounding kind of. Creates shields and barriers that prevents us from being able to live in authenticity and how human design can actually help us get back to that.

That’s right. This is one of the things though that I wanted to point out that for me, because I’m, I’m in the holistic medicine world, I’m getting my PhD in depth psychology, which is all about the unconscious mind, and I tend, I work mainly with cancer patients, looking at are there emotional contributors to this illness, to this disease?

And really a big question of how can I get back to alignment, mind, body, and spirit. So I actually think there’s a lot of crossover, but what I see a lot with other personality tests out there is for me, the hangup I have with a lot of them is they’re not distinguishing between, [00:11:00] is this who I authentically am or is this who I adapted to be because of trauma, generational trauma, what was modeled to me, et cetera.

Yeah. And so I see that, you know, I see someone do something like a Myers-Briggs or an Enneagram and, and then I almost feel that it becomes very confining for them because they’re like, well, this is just who I am. This is how I respond when there’s conflict. And I try to give a little pushback to, you know, is that who you authentically are or is that who you adapted to be?

And when we actually do this deeper healing, consciously, unconsciously, could you be free to respond and live and show up in so many other different ways? And I feel like human design is actually the, the reverse, which is why I love it so much. It’s, no, this actually is who I authentically am. And if I’m not living in that way, what are those deeper barriers or blocks or things that are keeping me from being able to live in this alignment?

Exactly. Yeah. It is so interesting because [00:12:00] I think, you know, when I first discovered my human design 10 years ago now, I felt so relieved. Like you experienced like so much permission. I was like, oh my God, this person is giving words to my inner experience in a way that is so new. But I was also very confronted because the way I had been living my life up until that point was the opposite of my design.

And if I was to take all these amazing personality tests, I, I would’ve gotten something very different because I really kind of found all my value on like how much I could create and how much I could do, and my kind of ability to like just go, go, go. And yet my design is the opposite of that. And so I think it speaks to what you’re saying is that it kind of speaks to this like.

What’s underneath it all? Like what is your natural wiring outside of all the condition we’ve experienced? And to me that was like such a relief to hear because I don’t believe I would’ve self-identified that way. And until somebody called that out, I was like, oh my God. Like, thank God I really gotta be that.

That’s okay. And so I, I think there is something so amazing about just honestly giving our [00:13:00] birth time and having it be that straightforward of like, but what is the thing underneath all the ways that you’ve been taught? Mm-hmm. Completely. Again, I think we’ll get into this more, but I, when I started going through my human design, I was like, oh, that, that for sure is who I used to be in a lot of ways, who I can be in some ways.

And yet. I find it really hard to be able to embody that sometimes because I think of some of the early childhood trauma and the things I’m trying to work through, but it helps it in a lot of ways. It is a north star of this is how I’m meant to operate. So if I’m not able to embody that, what’s going on?

What needs to shift? For me, it’s often what’s unconsciously imprinted that might need to be tended to. And address a little bit. I don’t, I don’t know if you find this helpful for people to understand, but maybe some of the history to human design. And if you don’t find that helpful, we can just totally skip that.

Oh, I’m happy to share. You know, I think that human design’s origins are very mystical and that is [00:14:00] why I kind of lead with what matters most is whether it’s useful or not, whether it’s true. Because when I share its origins in a corporate environment, they’re like, I’m sorry, huh. Um, but the Origins are, the founder of Human Design was a man named Rahru, who, um, originally he was Alan Krakauer, and then he changed his name and he had this very mystical experience in 1987 when human design first came about.

He was living in Ibiza and walked home one night and heard a voice, and the voice said, it’s time to work. And so for basically eight days and eight nights, he had this crazy mystical experience where he received. All this information that he then kind of called or was received as the human design system.

And then he spent the next 20 years building it out. Um, and, you know, he’s no longer alive, but it was really amazing because it developed a very kind of devoted following, but it was also like very small. Like people really did not know about it in the mainstream. Um, and he really kind of brought this system to life.

And then I would say in the past, I don’t know, maybe eight years, a lot of people have kind of taken the system and [00:15:00] translated in ways that are a little bit more palatable. Mm-hmm. A little bit more accessible to the mainstream, a little bit more empowering, a little bit more simple in a way that I think has kind of gotten all those amazing gems and allowed it to reach a broader audience.

Mm-hmm. Um, I will say that it draws from so many ancient systems, even though it’s very new, you know, it pulls from astrology, from the ai ching, from Kabbalah, from the chakra system. So it kind of pulls from these systems that are like so ancient and so powerful in a way that’s very. New and different.

And I think, you know, the idea is that it really does quite literally offer us a blueprint into our energy system, like you were saying, in a way that helps us know, like, what are your mechanics? Like, how can you actually move through the W way, move through the world? And I think, you know, the way that I’ve kind of come to understand human design is that it’s really just our operating manual.

Mm-hmm. We kind of come into this life without one and human design’s. Like here, it’s, I, for me, I actually love that origin story so much more because I, I find that when there’s one [00:16:00] sort of rigid practice, even if it’s just astro astrology, it doesn’t bring in enough nuance for me. I love the blending of things and kind of the cherry picking of here’s the best of this, here’s the best of that.

How does that all come together? I think that’s probably a part of my design too, is blend. Yeah. Your manifesting generator, you’re like, bring it all together. Yeah. Bring it all together completely. But I also think it’s worth saying really quickly that. You know, when we really pause to think about some of these modern day personality tests, what is it?

It’s someone who, whoever created it, decided these are important metrics. Yeah. These are the important metrics, and we have to just bring in a little bit of nuance to go, that’s them, that’s their lens, that’s how they’re orienting. It’s not the only lens available to us. And so for me, the more modern, you know, we could say quote unquote scientific based tests, they’re, they’re more rigid in structure, but also they’re more rigid in how they [00:17:00] serve us and how they were developed.

So I, I like the nuance of human design. Totally. Completely. Yeah. So I had, you know, again, I was listening to some of your other episodes you’ve done for, to help me get a sense of where do I wanna go with this. What’s the best place to start? I think I’ll kind of see what you feel about this, but you’re, you’re, you speak on this so much, so you can guide us.

A part of me was like, maybe we start with going through some of the core things on a chart Yeah. Of here’s some of the core things, here’s examples of each. Yeah. So people can start to get a sense of what’s in the chart, the type of information they can get out of that. Um, if that feels like a, a good place to start, I love it.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, it is. It is so funny because human design is so specific and so sometimes it can actually be a little bit hard to speak about it in more general terms because it is so specific and the information is so personalized. So yes, let’s kind of talk about the key parts of the chart, and I’ll use your chart as an example.

So you know, high level in [00:18:00] human design, we’ll start with type. Type is where I always recommend starting. If you don’t yet know your type, you can look it up@humandesignblueprint.com. You do you need your time, date, and place of birth. If you are unsure about the exact time, I would choose the closest approximate, you know, and if you don’t know the exact time, but no range, like morning, afternoon, evening.

I would try a few different times within the range, you know, to see what remains consistent. Your type actually likely will. There are five types, like maybe I said that already, manifesting generators, generators, projectors, reflectors, and manifestors. Um, I’ll kind of speak maybe briefly about each, just to give people a taste and then we can go into yours.

Does that sound good? I love it. Yeah. Okay, so I’m gonna start with you because you are a manifesting generator. So manifesting generators are multi-passionate doers. These are people that have so much energy to kind of build, create, and bring things to life when they feel genuine excitement and satisfaction around what they’re building.

When you’re lit up, you light the world up around you. Like it is so exciting to be around manifesting generator [00:19:00] because their passion is so infectious and so buzzing and just like so uplifting. I would say a big lesson for you as a. Multi-passionate person is that you can’t really be contained into one box, one career path, one linear path at all.

You are somebody who’s meant to try things on and let them go and try new things on, and people might interpret that as flaky or non-committal yet, like that’s just part of your nature. Like you’re just meant to try a lot of different things and experience that level of variety. Mm-hmm. You are also somebody who can make things happen incredibly fast.

Faster than most. Like as soon as your gut response is there, you’re like, I’m off to the races. Mm-hmm. I will say that can be a challenge for you if you expect anyone else to move at your speed. If you accept the fact, right, that everyone moves at their own pace and your gifted deficiency, you know, you can collaborate beautifully with other people.

I had a client, I tell this story in my book, um, uh, who is a manifesting generator and she’s like, Erin, I just like fired my seventh assistant. Like, what’s going on? I was like, what [00:20:00] is going on? She’s like, nobody can move as fast as me. I was like, Uhhuh, they’re not meant to, like, you would actually benefit by, with somebody who’s like more methodical, like kind of enjoying this step by step-by-step process because that will free you to move fast and be in your flow.

So. How does that feel too? Does that feel Yeah. Resonant with your life experience? Completely. Yeah. And I think once we get, you know, once we get through them more, then we can start to speak more to that nuance of, in some way, in some, all of that resonates. And then in some ways I do feel like I hold myself back from fully stepping into that sometimes.

So, but yes, completely. Cool. So generators, the next type are very similar. Some people even group these together. They too have all this amazing energy and magnetism and vitality when they feel lit up by what they’re doing because of their natural resourcefulness and capability. It’s so important to have very strong boundaries.

I think generators and manifesting generators can find themselves burdened with kind of carrying the load themselves because. They can do it, and they’re like, if I [00:21:00] can, I just should. And then they kind of deprioritize their own passion, their own excitement, and burn themselves out in the process. So I would say a big lesson for you generators listening, is that prioritizing your own fulfillment and your own satisfaction is not a selfish choice.

It’s the most generous choice you can make because it benefits everyone around you. I say this often, and I believe it so deeply, that nothing beats being around a lit up generator. Hmm. It’s, it’s just, again, it’s better for everyone. I’m married to one. I know this well. I know this in my heart, and it’s so important.

Um, I would say an ideal day for you as a generator is to wake up excited, energized, kind of use up your energy in ways that feel satisfying, whether it’s what you’re working on, who you’re spending time with, how you’re moving your body, and you drop in a bed delightfully spent, like you left it all on the field, and you kind of, kind of wake up with that energy again.

That clear? Yeah. Then we’ve got projectors. I’m a projector also know this one deeply. Projectors are not here to be consistent doers, you know, not like generators or manifesting generators. Our energy can really ebb and flow where it’s like energy to create [00:22:00] and they need to rest. And so I would say projectors thrive when they really build moments of space and pause and just like rest into their days.

And I know for me, I used to feel so guilty about rest. I used to feel like rest too had to be productive. And I think a big lesson for me as a projector is allowing moments of my day where I am just so deliberately unproductive. You know? Where it’s not about like listening to another podcast or taking another course, but it’s like, what if I just do nothing?

And like I will say, this is. Still so hard for me, and yet it’s so important for us as projectors, you know, and I would say one of your gifts as a projector is just the way you see the world. Like you’re somebody who’s so sensitive to others so attuned, it makes you such a natural leader, manager, guide, therapist, counselor.

Um, just so wise about people so often thrive in any role where kind of that’s the gift that you’re tapping into. You’ll find a lot of the human design coaches and guides and teachers out there are projectors. Obviously not a career that’s exclusive to projectors, but human design can really satiate that kind of desire to just like learn [00:23:00] about people even more and become wiser in that way.

Hmm. Then we’ve got manifesters. These are very kind of disruptive, innovative people. People that are really good at just like getting things started, like getting the ball rolling. Not necessarily good at like doing all the doing to keep the thing alive, but good at kick-starting a new idea. Their energy can very be very bursty, and what I mean by that is they might just be like so creative, so on fire for a period of a few hours, a few weeks, a few days, and then kinda need to pull back and take rest.

These are people that really thrive with freedom. They’re not here to be told what to do, how to do it. They’re here. To kind of set the terms of how they do things and when the final type is a reflector. This is the rarest type. These are people that, you know, when we talk about conditioning and sensitivity, they’re kind of wide open.

They’re kind of taking in everything in their environment, everything in the people around them, and they kind of mirror back what they’re experiencing, which makes it important for them to be such ruthless curators of where they’re spending time and who they’re spending it with, because they’re feeling it so deeply [00:24:00] themselves and they’re very fluid people.

They will have days where they feel like a manifesting generator like you, like a projector like me. And their job is to not get too, you know, not hold on too tightly to any one expression because they’re here to express themselves in a multitude of ways over the course of their life, and honestly, over the course of their days.

Hmm. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. So that’s kinda a highlight around type. The next piece that I would look to is connected to type, but I’ll talk just about yours so I don’t overwhelm all the people listening. But the next piece is called strategy, and it speaks to how you’re designed to best create opportunities for yourself.

And so for you as a manifesting generator, this will extend to generators as well, is that you’re really meant to allow things to come to you. You have this very magnetic energy, especially when you’re doing the things that really excite you and satisfy you, which means that things are just meant to show up in your world, and you’re kind of meant to wait for that gut to kind of light up and just draw you towards a thing.

An example of that could be you’re listening to a podcast, someone speaking about human design, and you’re like. Ooh, [00:25:00] what is that? Tell me more. Like, I’ve gotta look mine up and learn everything. Or you might be at a party and see somebody across the room that you just feel this like hole to that you can’t explain and you’re like, I’ve gotta talk to them.

Or you might see somebody on Instagram that feels like an amazing client and your body lights up in response and so you reach out and so you’re basically waiting for your body to kind of light up in response before you pursue a thing, because it’s often not until a thing shows up in your world that you’ll actually know it’s for you or not.

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And even to the point of I know there’s a part of my chart that’s like waiting to respond. That’s it. Yeah. And it’s so funny because I would find, I even do this now with podcast guests, where [00:27:00] now more often than not, guests are coming to me and, you know, reaching out to us to get booked. Or I’ll have something kind of light me up and then I’ll let my coordinator know, Hey, I’d love to have someone on with this.

Or Here’s the ideal person I’d love to have on. But even so specific as preparing for guest interviews, if I try to just sit down and go, where do I wanna go with this? It’s not enough of a response thing for me. So what I have to do is I have to go listen to a podcast interview that they’ve done. And it’s almost like I then am responding to this interview that I’ve heard that helps me come up with the whole flow of our conversation.

Yeah. Well it’s so funny you say that. I was like, oh, she, the way she’s doing this so perfectly, because you’re just giving yourself things to respond to, hopefully. And that’s, and that’s such a good reminder that you know, this strategy is not meant to be passive. None of them are. So if nothing is coming and nothing is becoming clear, it’s really about giving yourself things to respond to and just kind of seeing, okay, how does that feel?

How does that feel? And again, I would [00:28:00] remember for these types, the more like satisfied you are on a daily basis, the more magnetic you are. Mm-hmm. So if you are in a job that you really don’t enjoy and it feels like nothing’s coming your way, I would think about how can I carve out an hour a day, an hour a week, where I just kind of like do a thing that I love just because, and like just kind of start to see what comes into your world, because that’s the thing that kind of can start pulling more and more your way.

Even in terms of, it’s funny because in some ways I feel like my life is really charmed and that a lot of opportunities just come without me needing to grind, grind, grind to make them happen. But with that said, a huge part of that is I think within my own psyche, being really clear about what I’m looking for or being really clear about what I want to experiment with.

Mm-hmm. Hmm. I have this idea, I’d love to experiment with that. I kind of wanna call in this type of thing, and then that thing will come in and maybe once I experience it, I’m like, oh, that’s actually a no. But there is something for [00:29:00] me that’s very experiential where. I need to actually do it, test it out, play with it first before I get that full answer and clarity around if it’s right or not.

Mm-hmm. Totally. And again, it like, that’s also part of being a manifesting generator. Like, oh, that felt right and now like my energy is moving in a different direction. Like now it’s trying to let that go thing go and try something else. Mm-hmm. So, you know, that’s exactly right. And one thing I’ll say, actually, I’ll, I’ll say this for the next piece.

The next piece is called your authority. So we all have basically a different way of making decisions. I find this to be one of the most useful parts of our chart because every day we’re all making decisions, you know, from, for you who to invite on the podcast, you know who to spend time with, what. To say yes to what to say no to.

And human design helps us know how to kind of tap into that inner knowing that we can kind of rely on every single time. So for you, your authority is called sacral in human design. I also call this trust your gut. It basically means you are somebody that is meant to make decisions in the moment based on your gut [00:30:00] feeling.

It’s like a in the moment clarity that doesn’t need space or time to settle. Basically, as soon as something shows up in your world, you’ll either get a full-bodied yes. Or like a hesitation or nothing. I would say if it’s anything but a full-bodied yes. For you, it’s a no or not yet. Mm-hmm. So it is as much a tool to help you know where to put your energy as it is a tool to help you know when to put it there.

Mm-hmm. So something might show up and you’re like, no. And then a week later you’re like, yes. But the gut does not come with a reason. It’s just like a feeling of like, it feels right or it doesn’t. And one thing I would say about the gut is that it responds very well to specific questions. And so if you’re somebody who’s having a hard time making a decision, it can be useful to have somebody around you ask you very specific questions.

And what I mean by that is not like, what do you wanna do next, but more like, do you wanna do this? Does the timing feel right to pursue it? You might find that when things are positioned to you in that very specific yes, no way, it kind of bypasses your mind and gets you straight into the gut feeling.

[00:31:00] Completely. I do this, I kind of hack this with myself. You, you give a lot of examples with food sometimes, ’cause that’s really specific. But I’ll hack it with myself where in my mind’s eye I’ll like, imagine sitting down and eating Italian food and there’s like a very clear gut response. And then I’ll go, okay, no, that’s not it.

I imagine. And I’ll just like do that in my mind, I’ll imagine the thing until I get that really strong gut response. Yeah. And then I know that’s the thing. Whether that’s what I’m gonna eat for dinner or should I move my office in with this clinic? Or should I apply to this PhD program? And to your point, I think I do wanna talk about this more in kind of the nuance for other types or strategies.

But um, oftentimes it is not logical. I have just seen that pattern with myself so much where the immediate gut response or just the knowing defies logic, I think back to when I was first looking for. When I was first launching my business almost four years ago now, and I just had this [00:32:00] knowing of like, I’m gonna look for office.

I’m gonna, you know, fill out this application. This is the one for me. And my partner at the time was like, no one’s gonna lease to you. You have no business. You have no business credit, you have no income coming into that business. There’s no way you’re gonna get a space. And I just somehow was like, it makes no sense, but I know this is right.

I know this is a space and I’m gonna go and meet this person. And then within a week I had the space. Um, so in a lot, I, I, I’ve seen that pattern play out for me enough where I just know to trust it. Like, yeah, logically this does not make sense on paper, this does not make sense, but my gut is so clear on this.

Yeah. And it can be hard to trust, you know? And so it can be nice to kind of play with the smaller decisions like where to eat dinner, where to spend your Saturday, and kind of then scale it up to the bigger ones as you build that trust in yourself. But it is really wild because your gut basically gives you that feeling of like, this is the right next step, but like it won’t give you any more information beyond that.

Mm-hmm. And so I will say that although there are seven different [00:33:00] authorities, so seven different ways of making decisions, and basically there, they’re kind of different possibilities for every type. Mm-hmm. So not every manifesting generator will have this authority. But there is no way of making decisions that is logical in human design.

There’s no authority. That’s like create a pro con list and like, and then see, you know, which list is longer. It’s all around kind of tapping into a deeper knowing, like mm-hmm. For me, it’s about sleeping on decisions. Like I’m not meant to kind of trust that instantaneous knowing that you have, it’s about like seeing what feeling stays true over time.

Mm-hmm. Like, what do I love over days? You know, what is the feel like thread that stays true among many different conversations? For some people it’s about kind of talking things out and seeing kind of how their voices change. Like is does it become more animated as they speak about a certain decision or is there has hesitation?

Like is there confusion? And so kind of, it’s actually hearing how it feels to speak about a decision that kind of reveals their truth. I, I love this differentiation. This is something I wanted to lean into a little more because I think on the surface, as [00:34:00] someone’s listening, they might go, well, isn’t that good advice for all of us to trust our gut and trust that immediate instinctual decision?

What I’ve heard you say in other conversations and what you’re saying even right now, is actually that’s not the case for some people. For some people you might get an immediate paying to something and you, you shouldn’t trust that paying. You should sit with it. You should sleep on it. You should talk to 10 people about it, and then see what continues to resonate.

That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. And like I will say, for me, I kind of took that advice of like, listen to your gut. And like, I honestly don’t really have a gut instinct if somebody asks me like a specific yes, no question. I’m like, huh. Like, it just doesn’t resonate with me in the way that it does with my husband or my with you.

Um, and so it was actually very relieving because that, like, that advice had never made sense to me, like trusting my instant cad, but kind of the visceral belly situation. Like not a thing that feels true for me. And for me, like the instinctual knowing, I will often have an immediate knowing and I will often say [00:35:00] yes from this place of like excitement.

And I cannot tell you the number of times that I’ve woken up the next day and been like. I don’t wanna do that. Mm-hmm. Like I know that I was excited in the moment, but like, that doesn’t feel true for me anymore. And so then it would just like, kind of lead to these awkward situations where I was like, I’ve gotta like back out, even though I said yes.

And then like I would just stick with it. So like for me, taking a beat before I say yes, like is the path for me it’s, it’s the path to just be like, is this really the right commitment? And it’s the opposite for you. And you can start to kind of see how useful it is to not only understand your own way of making decisions, but your partners and your kids and your colleagues.

Because I can’t tell you how often I’ve sat with clients. I tell one story in my book where I. There’s a couple that’s trying to decide whether or not they moved to the East coast and one of them had an authority just like you. They knew in the moment they were like, I wanna go to the East Coast. I wanna go to New York.

And she was so frustrated with her husband because she felt like he was waffling. Like every day it was different. Like he was like, I wanna stay in California, I wanna go to New York. And like he just kind of was going through this process that [00:36:00] felt very murky and very non-committal to her. And when we sat down, I was like, it’s so funny you say that, because his way of making decisions is giving himself a full month.

Oh wow. 30 days. To kind of talk through a decision and like, yeah, it’s gonna feel confusing because it’s gonna change day to day because he’s gotta explore all the possibilities until one day it’s just gonna make sense and land. And he was just like, oh my God. Thank you for saying that. Because it does always land.

Mm-hmm. Every single time. So like what she was interpreting as indecisiveness. Was just like his clarity seeking process. It’s how he found his way to clarity, but because it was different than her, she didn’t understand it. And so I think that like, it’s just such a relief often for everyone in our lives to know how we best make decisions.

Because I do believe that entering into the right things in the first place makes all the difference. Mm-hmm. You know, when we, when I know for me, when I say yes from a very rash place, there’s kind of this like uncertainty and this like, just like doubt that kind of persists in the experience until like I just end up leaving it.[00:37:00]

Whereas when I like take my time and say yes from a very clear, calm, settled place like. I trust the experience. I can immerse myself entirely. I allow it to become whatever it’s meant to become. So we often know from the outset, and I think entering in the right way makes a tremendous difference. Mm-hmm.

And to that point of how it can be so practical, me understanding that I really can trust this sort of illogical gut knowing I have, the way that’s shifted how I move through things is I’ll have a knowing. And I don’t go to very many people now to get input because I know that they’re gonna say, well that’s not logical.

That doesn’t make sense. You should do this. Or the few, you know, close, close people in my circle that I might share something with. If they are a bit hesitant or giving me some pushback, I just know now not to take that in too much, not to let that deter me. And same thing with you, you, the tweaks or the pivots that you’ve been able to make are, I know I might have an initial [00:38:00] really excited.

Response to something, but I know that I can’t give a firm commitment until I’ve slept on it. So that’s how you’ve changed your patterning, which then allows you to Yeah. Just move through in so much more alignment. Yeah, and like again, to give another example of how somebody might, with another authority, like say somebody needs to talk things out.

So like for them a practice would be like a decision shows up in their world, shows up on their plate, and instead of responding immediately they say like, I’ll give me a moment. And they’ll kind of go ask a friend like, Hey, I need to talk things out. Like, I need you to listen. I’m looking for a sounding board.

I’m not looking for advice. And kind of creating the right scenario for them to kind of speak things out freely and see how it feels. Mm-hmm. So it also, I think, gives us all these amazing tools to know how to articulate our needs. You know, even for you, like you might have a partner be like, what do you want for dinner?

And you’re like. It’s not that, I don’t know, but the way you’re asking it isn’t speaking to me, so can you give me options? And then like, it’ll be a lot easier for me. So I think it also helps us [00:39:00] articulate to the people around us how they can uniquely support us in a way that helps us find our truth.

Yeah, and I think it’s both, it’s both sides of that where it’s. When, when I’m faced with a decision, here’s how I can go about that and respond in a way that’s aligned. Here’s how I can help facilitate more of that within my relationships and partnerships. But also on the flip side, if I am feeling really stuck and unclear, I don’t have to stay in that stuckness very long because I know, you know, for example, for me, if I’m not having a really clear gut reaction to something, I know I have to go into my mind’s eye and picture all the options until I have that really clear gut response.

So I think it’s so helpful even in those terms where it’s, and if I’m not getting that clarity I need, I know how to work within my type in a way that will bring that clarity very, very quickly. That’s right. And there is, you know, I don’t know if you know this, but there is something very specific for [00:40:00] manifesting generators around, like, not only paying attention to your first in instinct, but then kind of visualizing the possibility of actually doing this thing.

Okay, I didn’t know that, but I’m done it. Yeah. And like, so you’re doing it, but like kind of getting that second confirmation of like, how does it feel like in my body to actually do it? Okay, yeah. That feels right. I’m gonna keep moving forward. So like, I, I do, I just wanna like kind of call that out because I think the magic of human design often is not about telling us anything new.

It’s about giving us a language and a framework to understand an experience that we know so deeply and giving us permission to step into it. And so I think like that’s been the experience of people. They’re like, you’re not telling me anything new, but like now I feel able, I feel allowed. I feel like I can just go about my life and show up in the way that actually feels right.

I wanted to take a second to share about a new product I recently discovered, and you guys know I just love trying new things, but when I get introduced to something I love, I really, really love it and it becomes, usually it becomes some kind of [00:41:00] staple in my routine, and that is exactly what this product has become.

It is the new Jacob protein bar. And I am gonna share a couple of things I love about it most. But what I have to start out by saying is I don’t like protein bars. I think they’re disgusting. Most of them taste gross or are just filled with so many unnecessary or toxic ingredients that it’s not even worth eating.

So I haven’t bought protein bars in years. There’s something I just kind of gave up on, but recently one of the amazing staff at Ascent where my new LO office location is introduced me to the Jacob Bars and their title is The World’s Cleanest Protein Bar. They have 20 grams of grass fed protein, no seed oils, nothing artificial.

Let me just read you the ingredient list for their chocolate version. It’s a grass fed protein blend, [00:42:00] organic tapioca fiber, organic honey, grass fed beef, tallow, organic dates, organic almond butter, organic unsweetened chocolate, organic cacao powder, organic chocolate extract, sea salt. That’s it. And I absolutely love the taste.

They have three different flavors, chocolate, vanilla, that has some chocolate chips in it, and then a berry bar, and I actually love all three of them. And these have quickly become a staple at some point in my day, because usually one of my meals in the day is a meal that I need to just have a quick protein bar, maybe have a protein shake.

So these, I now have a box of these in my office at all times for those days when I need, I didn’t get to have breakfast so I can just have a really, really clean, nutritious protein bar. Or same thing, I didn’t get to pack lunch, so I’m gonna have this protein bar. Uh, it has absolutely blown me away with how clean it is, but also how good they [00:43:00] taste.

So check the link in the show notes to learn more about Jacob and try their bars. Right completely, because there are, there’s these, you know, spoken unspoken templates of how we’re supposed to move through the world. Sometimes I even think about the phrase, you know, that couples will use so often, like, never go to bed angry.

And I’m like, I don’t know. I think there’s some types out there where it’s, I, I actually will not be able to metabolize and have a conversation about this until I’ve slept on it. So I need to sleep on it to be able to come and have a productive conversation here. So, yeah, it’s through no one’s fault and not through any malice or poor intention, but just there’s a lot of sort of general advice and templates of living life that work for many.

And then do not work for just as many people too. Right. And it can start to feel very confining. Or again, it can start to become something where we start to belittle ourselves or feel like there’s something wrong with us, that we can’t [00:44:00] thrive and feel good and feel aligned when working within certain templates.

That’s right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And it just, again, it’s just such a relief to be like, oh, that’s why that hasn’t been working. Mm-hmm. You know, like, this is a way of doing things that might feel better for me. Mm-hmm. Yes. So the profile we didn’t talk about, but the profile is also a really cool piece. There are 12 different profiles, so maybe I’ll just talk about yours to kind of give people an example.

So your four six profile, the profile in our design, it honestly speaks to so many parts of our lives. It speaks to how to best market ourselves. It speaks to our purpose and how to kind of walk in a aligned path in our career. It speaks to specific relationship needs and how we might meet a partner. So the four in your profile.

So if you’re listening and you look up your profile and you see that you’re 1, 4, 2, 4, 4, 6 to four, one, this will also be true for you. Means that you are somebody who honestly finds opportunities best through your community and the people that you know. This can look like meeting somebody on a dating app, sorry, not meeting somebody on a dating app, but meeting [00:45:00] somebody through a friend or through your community.

Mm-hmm. Um, you might find that it’s far more natural to kind of date somebody who is a friend first, you know, rather than a complete stranger. It means that, you know, clients will likely come to you through the people that you know, through your friends, through former clients, instead of kind of just like.

The vast world of social media. Of course you can find people that way, but there’s just something around kind of really nurturing your relationships and your community that just makes every part of your life so much better. Have you kind of noticed community being a source of opportunity in your life, especially within the last year?

And again, I think, I think what’s worth noting here is, is that good general insight for everyone in the world. Totally. But what we’re talking about here is, for me, when I go to make decisions, for example, I’m. Getting ready to launch this really special online membership for all my cancer patients and wanting to promote that bigger, the way that I can use that is I know where I’m gonna go first is my community.

That’s right. Rather than looking externally. Whereas someone else with a different [00:46:00] design, it might actually be the opposite. It might be like, you need to go externally in all these big ways first. Yep. So it’s not to say that all of it can’t be true for some, for all of us, but where is that priority?

Where’s that high hierarchy of where I’m going first to pursue or promote or meet, et cetera. Yeah. And there are some people that work best with strangers, you know what I mean? Like their first place to go is like, I’ve gotta go like, you know, build a big social media community and like, I wanna just impact people that way.

Or I wanna like, you know, you never kind of know what the right path will be or. Well, human design helps us know what the right path is, but like, like you said, we can try lots of different strategies and I’ll never tell you not to try them all, but there are some that just might feel like a little bit more natural.

Mm-hmm. You know, I had an esthetician client who, um, had a four in her profile just like you. And the way that she had built her business was not through kind of building a online profile, but basically whenever she saw somebody in person, she then kind of text them that night and say like, you know, if you do refer somebody to me, you’ll get a hundred dollars off your next [00:47:00] appointment.

And so she built her business entirely through referrals. And I can’t tell you how often I hear that from those who have foreign, their profile like that is the most natural way to build. Mm-hmm. So it is a way to kind of look to your community first, even if it feels vulnerable, but trusting that’s gonna be a path that probably is gonna be really successful for you.

The six in your profile is around kind of this path you’re meant to walk in life. Have you explored this much? I actually dunno anything about this? No. Okay. Fun. Other than like reading through my blueprint, which I, yes. Got from you, but not like super specific. I really, yeah, I dunno that much at all. Okay, cool.

I love it. So again, if you’re looking up your design and you see that you are 6 2, 6 3, 3 6 or four six, this will also be true for you. So I think what this six speaks to more generally is that you are somebody who’s a very natural role model. Somebody who’s got kind of this innate wisdom. You have a bit of an authority in the way that you speak.

People might naturally trust you, it sounds like. That probably is really helpful in the work that you do. Mm-hmm. Um, you’re really good at kind of maintaining this optimism and kind of [00:48:00] objectively seeing where things are and where they’re going in a way that can be really helpful. You also are somebody who really needs space to kind of pull back and observe.

As much as you love community and being around people, there is an equal part of you that also probably wants to just step back and like watch it all. I had a client once with this profile who was a four six, and she loved kind of bringing people together for a book club, but once they were all together, she’d like sit on the outside and be like, oh my God, God.

This was like the exact experience I had a year ago. Oh my God. I have more to share, but tell me about your experience. Oh, well, just the, I I, the idea of a book club lit me up so much and then I did it and I was like. Oh, now everyone wants me to lead it. And I’m like, I don’t actually wanna lead it. I just, I want all of us to come together to chat and discuss, but I don’t wanna be the, the, the sole guide in these conversations.

And it was just funny ’cause I had to experiment and do it, and then I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, no, that’s not the thing. But that exact thing happened. So funny. Yeah, that’s, I, it’s, I’ve just heard that multiple times. Okay. So the other part of the six is that these people tend to live their life in three phases, [00:49:00] you know?

And like you said, there are elements of this that I think are in so many ways, true for all of us, and tends to be really intensely true for these people. Mm-hmm. So the first 30 years of your life is meant to be a time of trial and error. It’s not really time to like figure everything out, but really time to just experiment as I think you’ve been sharing about, like, try things, throw things against the wall, see what works, see what doesn’t.

30 to 50 is really a time to kind of settle a little bit. I don’t mean settle in terms of lowering expectations. I mean just like things just kind of like are a little bit less messy, a little bit less rocky. Like you might find that you are more clear around what’s worth the energy, what’s worth experimenting on, what’s not.

Um, I know for me, like I moved to the woods when I turned 30, it was very much like kind of getting out of the intensity of the city and my life did kind of take shape in a different kind of way. You might find that in this phase of 30 to 50 is when kind of people are coming to you more and more often for your wisdom.

You’re kind of embodying and learning all those lessons of those early years. And you are somebody who’s meant to hit your prime when you turn [00:50:00] 50. And that’s not about waiting for anything. That’s not about like, oh my God, right? I’ve gotta wait this many years. But it’s more around the fact that like. It just meant to keep getting richer and richer and better.

And like you just kind of become this embodied source of wisdom where you become a role model, not because you’re telling people what to do mm-hmm. But just because you’re like living your own authenticity so fully that like you being yourself inspires others to be themselves too. Mm-hmm. And I will say that when I’m around people in this third phase, I too have a six in my profile, but I’m 30, almost 35.

So not at all in this phase. But when I’m around people in this phase, like there’s just a gravity to their words. Like they just speak and everyone kind of just like listens. Yeah. Like it’s such a cool energy to be around where I’m like, and I discovered human design when I was 25 and I was like, I wanna be a role model now.

And like, again, it’s not that these people aren’t, but like. They’re not, the embodiment isn’t there. The wisdom isn’t there. It makes sense. You know? So, I don’t know. I’ve always viewed this as a thing that is just a thing to look forward to. And I work with so many clients in their forties [00:51:00] with this profile, and it’s really fun to watch because as they’re kind of in this decade leading up to like their full expression in many ways, they’re just like becoming so intolerant of anything that’s not fully aligned.

They’re just like, I’m getting rid of this and I’m getting rid, and I’m just like, wow, this is so fun to watch because you’re kind of watching them like, prepare for this moment. So, I don’t know. I’ve always loved this part of my design. Yeah. How does that feel to you? So true. And, and it’s funny ’cause I went and printed out my, my, um, human design blueprint that I purchased from you like four years ago.

Yeah. And I was rereading that piece and that piece makes me so excited. Right. I know. Because I’m like, it just keeps, it just keeps getting better. Better. And if life is already feeling so aligned for me and it can get even better, like, holy shit, amazing. Totally alignment, peace, joy is infinite. Yeah. So there is always more of that we can welcome in, so.

Mm-hmm. I love that. I think that’s amazing. I, those were kind of the core pieces. Yeah. Would you say? Right. I mean, I will say [00:52:00] that like there’s so much more. Yes. And like and, and the blueprint you’re talking about, we have a discount code for that. But just so you guys know how specific human design is, like the blueprint goes into the kind of core parts of your design.

So all four pieces we talked about and a lot more, and there are 400,000 versions of that blueprint, you know, so it’s just like, it’s just so crazy. Like it’s just so specific. I think one other piece, and we don’t have to dive into this, but I think. It’s relevant to what you brought up earlier. There’s a piece of our design called our open centers our, and they’re kind of gonna be the, I actually would love to hear about this.

Yeah. They’re kind of the pieces that you look at in your design that are the white shapes. And I find they’re so useful because they basically speak to where we are the most susceptible to conditioning. Where are we the most susceptible to other people’s energy? And there are areas that can be areas of tremendous wisdom, but also areas of tremendous challenge.

And so I find it’s really useful for people to really understand those parts. So just to kind of give, again, use your chart as an example. You have what we call an open identity center. This kind of really [00:53:00] honestly pairs well with your manifesting generator design, but it basically means that in kind of your most shadowy expression, which will often happen for all of us at times, is there can be this need to find like your one purpose, like the one thing you’re gonna do.

And there’s this constant pursuit. I always kind of speak of this shadow element. It’s just like searching, like I’ve gotta find my one purpose, my one partner, the right place to live. And it’s a really hard. Pursuit because you’re somebody who’s just bigger than one job and bigger than one purpose and bigger than one place and bigger than one partner.

Like, you know, and like, not to say you can’t find one partner that, but like that pursuit of like, I’ve gotta find the one can be a little bit stressful. Whereas the wisdom for you is like you’re somebody who’s here to express yourself in so many ways over the course of your life. So it’s not about finding your one purpose, it’s about really leaning so fully into what feels the most authentic to you right now and allowing that to continue to change instead of finding the one place you’re gonna live forever.

Which again, you might, but it’s about like what feels the best right now and how can I just like keep staying open to that evolution? And you’re somebody who’s so [00:54:00] sensitive to your physical space. So one of the most practical tools you have to work with that part of your design. Is to plant yourself in spaces that feel good.

Mm-hmm. Because being in the right space is gonna open the door to whatever’s right for you next. Somehow. I have totally found that where like aesthetic location is so unbelievably important to me. And this is oftentimes where I’ll make decisions that aren’t super logical because I’ll be like, I don’t care this.

This is a little expensive for a place to live, but I know that living here is going to open me up and inspire me so much more that I’ll be able to make the money. So this price doesn’t even matter. That’s right. Yeah. And just a lot of openness in, I, I just, I completely see that where there, I find that any rigidity, even in like structures of how relationships are supposed to be structured, I find, yeah, I’m, I’m so much more open into how a relationship can be structured.

I’m so much more open to, you know, I want a home here in SoCal, but I’d love a home in Europe at some point to be able to live there a little bit. So yes, that resonates lot. I love, love that. So let me [00:55:00] just share one more to give people a taste, because I think this also speaks to the point you’re making around, like, going to bed mad.

Yeah. Um, you’re somebody who’s really empathetic and deeply sensitive to other people’s emotions. This probably makes you really good at the work that you do because you’re such an, you’re just emotionally attuned. You’re like, this is, I can feel a lot of what someone else is feeling. You’re really good at giving language to it, to speaking to it.

But it also means that you can like, hold onto other people’s emotions pretty deeply as your own. And sometimes the boundary between what’s yours and what’s not can be a little bit murky and a little bit. Who knows. And so a big lesson for you is one, having strong emotional boundaries. Just kind of having the recognition that not everything you feel is your own.

Probably building in space after client sessions or working with people to kind of like return to yourself. And I think to your point around going to bed angry, like if you’re feeling really emotionally intense, it’s often not a signal for you to try to resolve the thing in the moment completely. ’cause you they, you could be taking on a partner’s emotions that they came from work and you’re like, I don’t even know if this is like rooted in [00:56:00] anything real, but like, we’re feeling very intense in this moment.

So one of the best things you can do is to just take a little bit of physical space as a way to just kind of release everything that’s not yours and kind of come back to this like, very cool, calm place, which is very much meant to be your default. Mm-hmm. Like you are somebody who is meant to speak and lead from a place of calm and not heat, you know, not like intensity and touching touchiness in that way.

So kind of taking that space you need can help you kind of like settle and return to that neutrality in yourself. Yeah. Something I’ll ask quickly and then I know we’ve gotta land this plane. There’s so many other questions. I know. It’s endless. We’re like, we can talk forever. Yeah. Is is it common? I, I feel like.

I, is it common to have so many open centers? I feel like if I’m picturing my chart, there were a lot of open centers and something it made me think of is I did have an astrology session actually with a therapist who blends astrology with her work. Cool. And she was saying your chart, your chart is actually like, you have so many things in so many pieces, like you clearly came here to do a lot.

Yeah. And impact a lot and be involved in [00:57:00] a lot of different things. And I was wondering if the open centers somehow spoke to that as well and maybe not. So the, the open centers don’t speak to doing a lot, but it speaks to just how sensitive you are in so many areas of your life and how full of wisdom you are.

So having this many open centers is pretty rare. It makes, it means that like, even though you’re not a reflector, that type, that’s like really sensitive to their space, like you might really resonate with a reflector because like mm-hmm. You in many, like, you’re the closest one can be in some ways to that.

Um, so you kind of have this really interesting dynamic where like you have as a manifesting generator, like that therapists spoke about, like, you’ve got so much capacity, like, so much capacity to make many things happen, make them happen very fast, very powerfully, very creatively. And that’s paired with like an extraordinary amount of wisdom, you know, around the fact that you’re somebody who’s not meant to be incredibly fixed in the way that you navigate life.

Like you’re here to be a lot more fluid and very attuned to other people in terms of, you know, how they feel about themselves, their level of stress, their fears, [00:58:00] their emotions, their ideas. So kind of like you’ve got a lot of capacity, but you also, I think, just taken so much from your environment. So when you know how to kinda work with that in a way that doesn’t overwhelm you, I think it just makes you like a overflowing will of wisdom in so many ways.

Hmm. Yeah. I love that. I think a place to kind of go next is for anyone who’s, it’s piqued their interest, where is a good place for someone to start? Yeah. Where’s a good place for someone to start with this? So, first, look up your design, human design blueprint.com if you want the guy that we’ve been talking about, which is basically think about like kind of a manual to you, um, that is there and you can use the discount code, Leigh Ann.

Um, and then I also have a book, which should be out by the time I think this episode comes out. And the book is really meant to be kind of a decision making tool using your design. So if you’re at a moment of like, I don’t know what to do here, I feel confused about this, you’re meant to kind of just open up to the chapters and be like, this is what to do.

So the book and the guide are honestly just meant to be such [00:59:00] compliments of each other. And so I think if you wanna really understand how to actually use and apply your design like we’re talking about. Your relationships with your partner, with your parents, with your kids, with your colleagues in your career, like the book is for that.

It’s like, how can you actually use this system to transform your life? And it’s full of so many stories and tips and examples that will kind of help you integrate it in really practical ways in your life. Yeah, tell us the name and then tell us the uh, launch date. The book is called How Do You Choose?

Um, you can get it human design blueprint.com/preorder-book. But also if you search, how do you choose Erin Claire Jones? You’ll find it and the book comes out May 13th. That’s so exciting. I think, tell me, tell me if this is right. I feel like there’s not many human design resources made for the consumer.

It’s a lot of human design resources for practitioners. That’s right. So that’s kind of where the book came from. I think that I. The books that are out there about human design are really amazing and they’re all kind of some version of a human [01:00:00] design textbook. So like that is great For somebody like me, I’m like, okay, I wanna get their perspective on this gate and their perspective on this center.

But there’s not yet a book that really is around how people can actually use human design to live their best life. And so this book was not written to kind of teach people human design. I have plenty of resources around that. Mm-hmm. But it’s how do you actually use it? Like you’re like looking for a job opening up and being like, how do I find a job?

What kind of job would be helpful for me? Like, how do I better articulate my needs to my partner? So this book is for that person, but I will say like, you know, I have an early copy that was sent to somebody who’s taken every single one of my courses. She’s a human design coach, and she’s like, I’m learning so many new things because it’s told through story in a way that nothing else is so yay.

That was really cool for me to see, like to see people that I. Yeah, it’s gonna be like the best for people that are new to human design. It was written for them, but I’m seeing that it’s actually equally impactful for those that are deep in it, because it’s told through such a different lens than anything else.

It’s not like, let me tell you, explain what this gate is. It’s like, how do you actually use all [01:01:00] these pieces? Mm-hmm. I think that’s such If, if someone was asking me where to start, I would say, go get Erin’s Human Design Blueprint. Yeah. On her website and then get the book. Yeah. That I think is gonna be such a beautiful starting point for many people for a long, long time.

I agree. I’m sorry. I mean I’m biased, but Yeah, totally. But, but that like you don’t necessarily need to run out and find a human design practitioner and Correct. You know, have all that one-on-one insight. Although at some point I do think that could be immensely powerful. That’s kind of where I feel like I’m at right now.

’cause I have some very specific questions and things I wanna navigate. But for someone just getting started, your blueprint is so thorough and helpful. And then I think it sounds like your book just expands on that even more with even more real life examples that help kind of put it into that. Imaginal context for them too, so, exactly.

Yeah. I love that. I, I will make sure all of that is also linked in the show notes below. I, is there anything else that we didn’t cover though that feels really important or, I don’t know, like [01:02:00] missteps someone might take? Well, I, I guess two things. One, I do share a that on Instagram at Human Design Blueprint and Erin Claire Jones, well, less so, but I will again someday soon beyond this book launch.

But. The piece that I would share is that, you know, human design is not meant to be a restrictive thing. So, you know, as you engage with a system, if you feel inspired to, just remember that human design is not meant to tell you like what you can or cannot do, what job you can take, what partner you can have.

It just lets you know how you can do that thing best. Mm-hmm. Okay. So it’s like every type can be an entrepreneur, but like, how can you do that in a way that works for you? Um, so I just kind of wanna remind people that as they’re, you know, delving into this world that like, this is meant to be a tool that empowers you and not limits you.

So if there’s any part that feels limiting, not useful, like, please feel free to let it go. Right. You know, again, let this be a thing that is useful and empowering and, and letting it Yeah, releasing it. Anything but that. Completely. I think for me, the way I translate it is this is the the blueprint that I want to live in the majority of [01:03:00] my time.

Yeah. And it doesn’t mean that I can’t ever operate differently or respond differently or make decisions differently, but if I am doing this, the majority of my time, things are going, I’m gonna feel fulfilled, aligned, at peace, happy magnetic, et cetera, all the things. And then if something funky happens and I, I have to show up differently, that’s okay.

I can navigate that. That’s right. But yeah, for me it’s more like if I can coordinate my life to flow this way the majority of the time. Yeah. That’s where that alignment comes from. Beautiful. I love it. This was so amazing. Thank you so much, Erin, and I’m so congratulations. That is so exciting to be launching a book.

Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. It’s crazy. Yeah, crazy. I hope. I hope it’s just gonna be like an amazing year. I hope so too. For you of [01:04:00] fulfillment.