THE ACCRESCENT™ PODCAST EPISODE 221

Leigh Ann Lindsey (00:01.9)
Well, Kenna, welcome to the Accrescent Podcast.

Kenna Limp (00:05.442)
Thank you. I’m excited to be here.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (00:07.758)
This is a long time in coming because for the audience, Kenna moved into Ascent and has been practicing here out of Ascent for a few months now, I think. so we’ve…

Kenna Limp (00:16.749)
Yeah, I think it’s been almost four months.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (00:20.01)
Yeah, we’ve been talking about getting you on the podcast to share more about Firefly, Fscan, all the work you’re doing, all the different applications for this technology, and also some of the things you might offer even outside of Fscan and Firefly with your nutrition background. So it’s been a long time in coming. I’m super excited to get to have you on. And I think there’s been so many clients locally who’ve already come to see you and…

Kenna Limp (00:31.052)
Yes.

Kenna Limp (00:39.384)
Thank you.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (00:44.246)
are just seeing such amazing results and loving it so much. So it’ll be really fun. But I think the place I love to start is a little bit of the origin story. What got you to where you’re at today? I know you have education and nutrition, and you’re still working with that to some degree. But kind of what got you into Firefly and Fscan? Tell us a little bit of that journey.

Kenna Limp (00:46.294)
Yeah, yeah definitely.

Kenna Limp (01:06.026)
Yeah, so I actually worked in traditional medicine years ago and I just, I did not like the care of the protocols, but on top of that, I went through my own health journey. I was diagnosed with endometriosis at a very young age and what they wanted to give me or treat me with was birth control and that experience of

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:20.504)
Hey

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:27.071)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (01:30.028)
the birth control actually messed up my hormones and just caused like an emotional situation in my body, physically, emotionally, mentally. I struggled with symptoms for a very long time, like fatigue, inflammation, brain fog, some gut issues as well.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:37.887)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (01:48.44)
And I wanted to figure out how to find natural things to help my situation versus taking a pill or a shot for birth control or something to kind of, you know, manage birth.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:03.975)
mitigate yeah yeah because it sounds like it maybe wasn’t even being that helpful

Kenna Limp (02:08.502)
Yeah, yeah, and it actually caused so much more harm for me and other people around me because of just how my hormones became so unbalanced as well. And, you know, they normally do like a testing with birth control. They don’t know exactly where your, the strength is when they start you off. So it was kind of like a trial and error kind of thing for me. So after that, and having all these other issues that stemmed from using birth control and medications and stuff, that’s when I actually

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:15.596)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:26.743)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (02:38.446)
into my masters in holistic nutrition to kind of find, you know, food as medicine to help every part of my body of where it was at in those moments. And then after doing my masters, I

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:44.972)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (02:53.634)
basically found F-scan and Firefly, which has been a game changer also for my endometriosis, but as well as a lot of other chronic and complex conditions and pathogen loads for other people that I’ve seen. that kind of what guided me more to the holistic route was what I went through on my own.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:03.117)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:10.003)
Yeah, completely. When we just kind of reach that point of conventional medicine isn’t getting to the root of this, isn’t solving this for me. So we become our own detectives. yeah, completely. OK, now I have.

Kenna Limp (03:20.77)
Great, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean a lot of research and stuff and going down that rabbit hole, so.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:26.377)
Yeah, but now I’m so, it was so cool to hear you say that you felt like Firefly helped your endometriosis. And was that just because it was helping that pathogen load that then is creating inflammation that then is impacting that, or is there some other mode of mechanism you think for that?

Kenna Limp (03:33.174)
Yeah, yeah, so.

Kenna Limp (03:42.23)
Yeah, so it was more of like the toxin load. does cause the inflammation as well, but light therapy is super beneficial as it is. I mean, having the light and then the frequencies for the pathogen load as well, actually the combination really eradicates a lot of situations in the body. I mean, inflammation, helped with my pain, especially around like my menstrual cycles. I mean, it was the worst time for me. I would go to the hospital for them. I was even popping like Vicodin for pain. Like it was so

Leigh Ann Lindsey (04:10.754)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kenna Limp (04:12.154)
So it definitely started helping me with addressing those toxin load, that toxin load in my body, and then also the inflammation. But nutrition did play a huge part in it as well. I mean, that’s a really big part of our system. So having all of those together really helped me to get where I’m at today.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (04:20.908)
Mm-hmm.

Totally.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (04:33.28)
Yeah. So give us an introduction to what is F scan, what is Firefly. These are different. They’re two different technologies. You’re using them in combination with each other. Let’s just start there.

Kenna Limp (04:44.888)
Yeah, so the F scan is actually a biofeedback tool. So what that means is it searches the body for any frequency disturbances. So essentially energetic signatures of things like pathogens, so parasites, bacteria, mold, fungus, viruses, candida, and every organism and tissue vibrates at its own frequency. So when something is out of balance, the scan actually detects it in the body. So it’s giving us a personalized map of what’s really stretching

the body on a deeper level. So once we actually identify those frequencies, we can use them by targeting therapies, so Firefly light therapy, to actually help rebalance them. So what people are doing for the F skin is they’re holding a rod in their left hand and then actually a clip on their right hand but middle finger. So what the rod is doing is it’s reading deep down into your tissues and then the clip is actually reading through your skin. You don’t feel a thing, it’s non-invasive, but then once we actually

Leigh Ann Lindsey (05:29.538)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (05:44.724)
treat you for any pathogens that arise on the F scan. The Firefly Light Therapy actually uses eight different wavelengths of red, near infrared, and blue light. And it’s also combined with those frequencies that I found on your F scan. So it actually communicates directly with the cells at the cellular level. So it stimulates the mitochondrial activity, which is the powerhouse of our cells, the process that creates ATP, which is our cellular energy.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:09.25)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (06:14.468)
So when cells have more energy, they can actually repair tissue, reduce the inflammation, and then restore function in our body. So a lot of my patients will come in for the pathogen load, but I also treat for other chronic conditions to help with circulation, oxygenation, lymphatic drainage, while calming the nervous system, which we do need because we’re, a lot of us are in that fight or flight, and we want to be into that rest and repair mode.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:18.848)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:43.304)
Yeah, so I want to separate these out a little bit more. the F scan really is just a, I’ll use this word lightly, a diagnostic tool to help us just identify what frequencies of pathogens are resonating in my body. What is my immune system actively fighting off right now that it’s needing support with? And you get that printout and you can see, and you’re so, you’ve done this for so long. You’re so quick. I just did a scan with Kenna a few weeks ago and she was like, and this is a cold and flu virus and this is this kind

Kenna Limp (06:55.682)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (07:13.198)
a parasite and this is this kind of bacteria and you can identify them so quickly.

Kenna Limp (07:15.626)
Nice, yeah?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (07:18.97)
Once we’ve identified what’s going on there, it could end there. Some people could take that and then go work with their doctor in other ways to start to fight those pathogens. And I think realistically, that’s what most people are doing. They’re using Firefly and Fscan in conjunction with supplements, nutrition, all these different supports. But to that end, the thing that I think is so powerful about Firefly, after you do the Fscan to identify pathogens in the body, you’re able to do this Firefly

Kenna Limp (07:27.126)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (07:36.354)
Great, yeah. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (07:48.817)
treatment that as you said combines multiple different light therapies but then the really the frequencies that have been found to target those pathogens in the body.

Kenna Limp (07:52.94)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (08:02.145)
Yeah, I mean, you when you

match a frequency with its identical frequency. So that’s what we’re doing for treatment is it actually breaks the pathogen apart. So it’s kind of like an opera singer who sings at the same frequency as glass and it shatters. That’s exactly how I’m treating a patient. It’s non-invasive and we’re using light therapy to actually penetrate the frequency eight inches deep into the body. You only feel a little warmth and maybe some movement from the frequency. So it’ll kind of feel like waves or like little gas bubbles.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (08:12.172)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (08:17.718)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (08:27.373)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (08:34.426)
But for the most part, it feels pretty good when you’re doing treatment.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (08:38.614)
Yeah. So I want to talk about, we’re going to kind of get into, think closer towards the end too though, like what does a typical session look like? What can people expect? But let’s talk about using this specifically for pathogens. What are some of the different use cases? We talk a lot about using it with parasites and I do want to spend some time there, but it goes beyond that, right? You talked about viruses and bacteria and fungi, but maybe let’s start with parasites.

Kenna Limp (09:04.439)
Yeah.

Yeah, mean, a lot of us have them. We’re all loaded with some type of parasite. mean, from contaminated food, water, animals, things that we touch, soil, so anything raw. So I mean, it’s easy to pick something up. And a lot of my patients will come in because they have some type of gut issue going on. And a lot of the times it is parasites or it’s something different like candida.

or bacteria, so I’m able to actually detect that in the system. However, parasites, the treatment is a little bit different because when we’re doing the F scan, we’re using the frequencies that it gives off to actually treat them in your abdomen area or wherever parasites travel as well. However, Firefly Light Therapy, I do treat using the light therapy for ALS, Alzheimer’s, dementia, Parkinson’s, TMJ, tinnitus, any inflammation.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:43.074)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:58.318)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (10:00.9)
inflammation or pain, neuropathy, TBI, so traumatic brain injuries, or even just emotional dysregulation because the gut plays a huge part with your brain. It’s that gut-brain axis, so they are connected as well. So I’ve helped people with anxiety, depression. know, light therapy is super stimulating for the brain, and it’s important. We need it.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (10:15.246)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (10:21.557)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (10:27.98)
Yeah, completely.

I think I want to get into that a little bit more and how the lights you’re using are different from maybe like some red light panel you could get at home. I think that’ll be important to distinguish. But yeah, what does this look like? Can people who’ve maybe been exposed to mold use this? Could this be impactful? And I’ll share some of the ways that I often use it because it’s definitely more than just parasites, even though that’s something that we’re talking a lot about here at Ascent and people come in on the full moon. But when we’re talking about pathogens, what are some of those other ways that you’ve seen

Kenna Limp (10:36.73)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (10:54.519)
you

Leigh Ann Lindsey (10:59.546)
people use it and have really great kind of results.

Kenna Limp (11:02.763)
Yeah, yeah, so.

We do bacteria as mold, fungus, viruses, candida. A lot of my patients who do come in and we focus more on like the mold or Lyme. Those are actually pretty big ones that I do find in my patients outside of the parasite load. But for my patients who have like Lyme or mold, like their symptoms are pretty severe. I mean, it gets to a point where it’s causing them to not function basically on their day-to-day basis. So when they come in, I do treat them for a mold protocol or a Lyme protocol as well.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (11:29.388)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (11:34.442)
and I always do their head.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (11:37.92)
Okay.

Kenna Limp (11:38.424)
any type of like joint pain or body aches, wherever the main concern is, and then addressing other areas of concern. We always do during the treatment as well. But the head is a big one. Our allergies for mold, we can actually do your face or the sinus area too to kind of help detox that out of your system. And some of my clients do take mold protocols or parasite protocols, Lyme protocols. So with working with all that together, it’s like a more aggressive approach.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (11:55.948)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (12:00.431)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (12:07.897)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (12:08.388)
from different sides.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (12:10.561)
I just have found, and I’ve talked about this before on the podcast that…

in a couple different contexts. One, when it comes to parasites, what I found to be like such an amazing blend is, you know, using supplements, using good supplements, doing coffee enemas, and then doing the F scan and the Firefly. That’s the only thing I found that is really effective. Just doing the supplements alone, I didn’t find did much for me. So the Firefly was such a powerful, powerful.

part of that. And it’s so specific to you can see exactly what parasites are coming up. You’re targeting them at this energetic frequency level, not just with the supplements. And I just personally found that that mixture of modalities is what was kind of like the secret sauce for me.

Kenna Limp (12:45.516)
Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Kenna Limp (12:58.034)
Yeah, and you know everyone’s different, right? mean everyone’s body wants, you know, maybe treatment or maybe treatment and you know a parasite cleanse or mold protocol. So you kind of have to listen and be your own advocate as a patient. I mean you really should listen to your body and kind of see where you’re at and how your body’s responding. It’s great because Firefly is very non-invasive, so it doesn’t ever harm anyone, but some people can experience those Herx reactions, which aren’t fun. I mean some people get flu-like symptoms.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (13:15.737)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (13:19.215)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (13:27.988)
they can get headaches, nausea, stomach aches, sometimes even rashes because when you detox, know, sometimes they can show through your skin. there are, you know, those symptoms that can actually occur.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (13:34.083)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (13:38.562)
Yeah, yeah, and that’s people can kind of assess that. And then also, I mean, that’s really where whatever the core doctor is that they’re working with will be able to help support them in, you know, are your detox pathways open? I whenever I would do Firefly, I like to take binders before I come in because we are worse.

Kenna Limp (13:48.406)
Right.

Kenna Limp (13:57.57)
for any after yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (13:59.164)
We’re killing something off that’s getting released into the body and into the bloodstream and needs to be excreted. And just taking some extra binders I found helped mitigate some of those mild Herx reactions for me. Yeah.

Kenna Limp (14:11.168)
Right, definitely. And then also hydration is really important too. So it can help with detoxing, but just flushing in general. Because we do want to make sure you’re able to use the restroom. You don’t want those toxins circulating in your system.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (14:21.668)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I mean, I feel like we could spend the whole hour just talking about parasites and like the stories you’ve had and the things you’ve seen. But I also think it doesn’t do the technology justice because it really has so many applications. One thing I want to share with the audience is I love using it. Like if I have if I feel a cold or some kind of like viral thing coming on, like you said, I’ll get in there. You’ll do it like on my sinuses and my face and on like the lymph nodes in my neck. And I feel it.

Kenna Limp (14:28.056)
Yeah, I know, I know.

Kenna Limp (14:35.362)
Yeah, yeah.

Kenna Limp (14:52.876)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (14:54.523)
knocks it out so fast so that it doesn’t really become this like big big thing. And honestly, even like for us women here, UTIs, like yeast infections and stuff. I thankfully haven’t had that happen in a really long time, but if I do and like that’s one of the first things I’m gonna do to avoid having to take antibiotics or some kind of thing.

Kenna Limp (15:04.627)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (15:16.598)
Right, yeah, I mean, and it’s great because I can actually program the frequencies for that stuff as well. So, mean, either flu or anything like that, I mean, it’s simple and it’s easy, but it’s also very helpful for my client.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (15:21.217)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (15:28.633)
Totally.

Yeah. Well, just to that end, like you can kind of use it in two different contexts. It’s someone coming in going, I’m having maybe all of these different gut symptoms or headaches, or I’m having, you know, on the other side, and we’ll talk about this more towards the end, ALS and some of these other non-pathogenic experiences and how you can use it to support that. And they can come in and you just do the test or it could be the reverse. It could be, I feel a flu coming on. I’m going to come in. Can you very specifically run a flu protocol?

Kenna Limp (15:40.344)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (15:58.434)
Right, right, yeah. I mean, I patients who come in just because they have pain or because they have Alzheimer’s. They don’t have to necessarily do the scan. It’s good to do the scan to kind of see what your immune system’s fighting in that moment, regardless if you’re coming in for something completely different, because the gut is, super important. I mean, if you have an imbalanced gut, it can cause issues other places. So I always tell my patients you should do a scan, but I do have those who just want to come in for other reasons too.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (16:06.916)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (16:26.731)
Mm-hmm. Well, I, you and I, I just did a series with you that was more focused on, I think, parasite type stuff, but I’m, you you know, I’m actively working on detoxing from mold from my last office. And so I’m excited. I’ve never used Firefly for the context of mold. So I’m excited to see how that might be supportive in the healing journey. I know I need to re-scan with you.

Kenna Limp (16:46.912)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you still have to do your scan too, your…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (16:54.893)
And we’ll kind of see what’s coming up, but the mold has been like a really, really big focus for me this year. it’s Firefly isn’t something I’ve used as a part of that mold approach specifically. So I’m really excited.

Kenna Limp (17:03.32)
Yeah. And I think because a lot of people, mean, however they hear it or of it from somebody, they don’t know how much it does for a person. I mean, a lot of people know it as for parasites. And that’s why they’re coming in. But there’s so much more that Firefly does. And it’s so powerful. I mean, it’s a very powerful device. I mean, it helps a lot of my clients. And it’s helped me in my journey of healing, too.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:14.052)
Mm-hmm.

Yes, exactly.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:23.777)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:30.924)
Yeah, so let’s talk about some of those other use cases. And I do want to get into a little bit of some patient stories with maybe some of those different, like parasite patient stories, maybe some mold, cancer patients, ALS patients, and just hear some of how it’s been supportive for them. But let’s now talk about, aside from treating pathogens,

Kenna Limp (17:44.8)
Yeah, sure.

Kenna Limp (17:55.094)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:55.424)
How can Firefly be supportive of other illnesses? You talked about red light and blue light and near infrared. How is it different from other products that also have those same light frequencies?

Kenna Limp (18:06.154)
Yeah, so the Firefly therapy that I have, it’s actually one of the most advanced technologies of photobiomodulation therapy, which just simply means that the specific wavelengths of light, so it just to influence the body’s biology in a positive way.

Let’s restart that.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:26.839)
You’re good. You’re totally good. I’m just going to note the time.

Kenna Limp (18:33.804)
Okay, so.

Traditional red light panels or like handheld devices, they typically emit like one or two general wavelengths of red or near infrared light. So they can absolutely be beneficial for skin health, pain relief, or general inflammation, but they work more on like a broad surface level. So with my device, Firefly Light Therapy, on the other hand, it actually, it’s frequency encoded and it’s clinically programmable, which means that the light carries not just color,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:03.087)
Mmm.

Kenna Limp (19:05.241)
information. So it uses multiple wavelengths, like I said earlier, eight specifically. So red, near-infrared, and blue light combined with actually targeted frequency signals that communicate directly with the body cells and energetic systems. It gives off like 75,000 watts, which a lot of devices are maybe can range from 10 to 20, maybe a little bit more.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:06.775)
Okay.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:30.093)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (19:31.252)
but I mean this is a really strong device. So it allows us to actually address much deeper issues than traditional light therapy out there. You know, talking about the inflammation nerve repair, immune modulation in a shorter period of time versus having to treat for half hour to an hour. It ranges from five minutes to maybe 20 minutes depending on the patient.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:38.927)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:46.582)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:55.863)
Yeah, completely. So let’s talk about then now using it for ALS, pain, neuropathy, some of these different use cases.

Kenna Limp (20:05.9)
Yeah, so one of my favorite testimonials was a neuropathy patient, one of many, but was a neuropathy patient who came with me with her feet and her legs and her hands, having that burning, tingling.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (20:20.058)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (20:21.442)
sensation, the numbness, and it’s been going on for years. She tried everything and medications to supplements. At this point, was whatever can benefit her. But nothing was helping her. So she told me it felt like her brain and basically her feet weren’t connected anymore. was completely separate. It was separate from her body. Yeah, yeah. So she came in. It was kind of like I was her last resort.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (20:40.624)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (20:43.98)
wow.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (20:50.415)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (20:51.605)
I think a lot of people do try the traditional route and then they kind of come to me and they’re like, hey, I really need help.

So what Firefly did, as I explained that it wasn’t just about having to help like symptom relief. It was more restoring her body at like a cellular communication level and like nerve health. So we focused, you know, the red light and the near infrared light along her lower legs and feet. And also I her hands. Now these are different sessions. So I actually sandwich, I have two wands that I use and I sandwich each foot and leg. I do that for about five to

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:12.898)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:18.8)
Okay.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:24.549)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (21:29.21)
10 minutes to improve the circulation, calm that inflammation, and then help with that stimulation of the nerve regeneration. So I also do that to her hands. So we’re just sandwiching it with a light therapy with both the wands. Each wand gives off 35,000 watts or so. So it’s pretty strong on the upper and lower extremities. But even just after a few sessions, she noticed the burning, easing up.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:36.697)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:49.027)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (21:57.386)
She felt like the circulation, like the warmth on her extremities. And I think that’s a good sign because when you feel that warmth, you know that circulation is flowing. And that’s a good sign. And her balance improved. She can finally feel the ground beneath her feet because she didn’t have a feeling under her feet for a while because of the numbness and just the nerve pain.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (22:00.833)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (22:23.806)
after just a few, I would say about three treatments or four treatments, she started feeling a difference.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (22:29.84)
Mm-hmm. And I want to understand this a little bit better. I think you spoke to this just for a second. Is this, there’s a difference between this is just pain management and it’s going to mitigate the pain for a little bit, but it’s going to come right back. This is really helping address some of those deeper root causes to the symptoms and actually start to reverse and create deeper healing. Is that right? Like it goes beyond just pain management.

Kenna Limp (22:44.662)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (22:54.134)
Right.

Yeah, 100%. I mean, we’re trying to heal them at the cellular level. So we’re trying to get their bodies to actually heal on its own versus us to just minimize those symptoms for them. So yeah, we definitely… Did I lose you?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:10.169)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:16.529)
no, can you see me? Can hear me?

Kenna Limp (23:18.784)
can hear you, just can’t, I don’t know where you went. I’m sorry, I’m like, trying to There you are. Okay, I’m like-

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:21.982)
Ha

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:25.264)
It’s okay. It’s totally okay. I just make a quick note of when he needs to cut, so you’re good.

Kenna Limp (23:31.724)
Okay, okay, because I’m like, you kind of disappeared. Okay, I found you.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:35.036)
that’s so funny.

And what can we speak deeper to the motive mechanism?

Kenna Limp (23:44.728)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:44.823)
that it’s helping that deeper healing be facilitated. The red light, can we talk a little bit more about what it’s doing cellularly? The red light, but then also those frequencies that are involved in it. It sounds like maybe with the neuropathy specifically, yes, it’s improving circulation. It’s maybe increasing that mitochondria production in the cells, but that there’s that nerve healing that’s happening. It’s not to the point we just made. It’s not just pain reduction. There’s actual healing that’s happening in the nerves. The nerves are able to kind of

Kenna Limp (24:04.104)
huh.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (24:15.224)
whatever it might be, recreate that mile and sheath so that they’re able to reconnect with the brain in a way they haven’t been able to.

Kenna Limp (24:23.338)
Right, right, mean, it’s,

amazing with light because it penetrates so deep. So that’s actually how we’re able to, you know, enter through the skin, the tissues triggering that cellular repair mechanism. And so the infrared light therapy benefits have become like increasingly recognized, I think, within the last few years. I mean, it’s been used for a long time, but a lot of people are utilizing it. And a lot of studies show the reduction in the pain and the numbness.

But I’m trying to, wait, I’m gonna stop for a second. I’m trying to, I had this thing I wanted to state. I made a note of it and I’m trying to find it real quick. Because I like the signs of that stuff, so I really wanted to make sure.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:08.164)
Okay, you’re good. You’re good. Take your time.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:14.049)
Yeah, totally.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:24.744)
my God, you type fast. was funny.

Kenna Limp (25:26.28)
my god, you can hear me. That is so funny. that is hilarious. Can you see if I’m like reading anything?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:38.48)
Not really. And the video is really only shared for short little clips. So you won’t be able to tell. Yeah, you’re totally fine.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:54.278)
Ready? Ready to go? Okay. Whenever you’re

Kenna Limp (26:02.36)
Okay, so.

talking about.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (26:08.145)
How is it actually helping that neuropathy beyond just pain relief? Like what’s happening at a cellular level that’s allowing those nerves to repair?

Kenna Limp (26:21.452)
So.

What it’s doing is it’s with light therapy with red and near infrared light. I know I use blue, but we mainly use the red and near infrared for cases like this. But that is absorbed by the mitochondria. So I know that’s something we talked about. It boosts that production of ATP, which is the energy currency of the cell. So it’s essential for cells to repair and function. But it also decreases that inflammation, which is a common component of neuropathy, but stimulates the release of endorphins.

which are the body’s natural painkillers. So it actually helps take away the pain in the body too. Obviously, you know…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (26:52.913)
Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (27:01.586)
to a certain extent, but we’re also increasing that in the body. So that way it actually helps with any pain that your body might be feeling too. But then also improving that circulation. So the therapy promotes vasodilation. So widening of the blood vessels, which improves the blood flow to the affected areas. It ensures that the nerves receive the oxygen, the nutrients they need to heal and function properly.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:09.489)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:25.743)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (27:26.956)
but also promotes nerve regeneration. So there are some studies out there that light therapy may encourage nerve repair and regrowth, helping to improve overall nerve health and function. So there are a few studies out there that actually show that it has benefited, and people actually came out of it with their neuropathy repaired and their body not having those symptoms.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:29.892)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:50.446)
Yeah, and in some of the clients you’ve worked with when that neuropathy starts to reverse, does it come back? Or is it like that’s been reversed for good?

Kenna Limp (28:00.426)
So the clients that I have had there, I’ve had one client who had came back, but that’s because she actually re-injured a nerve in her body. So a lot of the times, especially with her legs, I think it was some type of workout she was doing and actually caused her neuropathy to come back. So I ended up treating her and her symptoms weren’t as bad, but it was something that we still continue to work on. I’ve had other clients that their neuropathy actually went away.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:08.973)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:15.674)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:28.847)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (28:30.33)
they just they stay on top of things like a lot of them will end up purchasing like a home device like a firefly device. We have the like a glow unit that we do offer clients as well.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:35.033)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (28:43.04)
And that actually is something that they can do every single day at home, which is very convenient for them. And they don’t have to use it so often. So I do have clients who, just to do the maintenance or like the prevention of it coming back, to actually invest in some type of light therapy, whether that’s going in somewhere or getting their own device too.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:46.786)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:57.819)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (29:01.901)
Yeah, what I want to just keep coming back to is you spoke to the level of the intensity of these lights is not like a red light panel that you can get on Amazon.

Kenna Limp (29:05.239)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (29:14.377)
And to that end, you can get a red and a near infrared light panel on Amazon or from some other big name company. But you’re going to have to stand in front of it for 30 minutes more. If you’re not at least that quarter of an inch close to it, it’s not really penetrating that deep anyways. So I’m trying to think of an analogy that really expresses the difference in these two devices, where it’s almost as if the red light panels you could get at home, it’s almost as if you opened up your little supplement

and just like sprinkled a little bit of that supplement out. You know, and it’s sort of like, okay, I got a little bit of it, but it’s not the same thing as getting that whole capsule.

Kenna Limp (29:47.895)
rate.

Kenna Limp (29:55.224)
Right, right. mean, so with my clients, mean, the Firefly therapy device with, I mean, I don’t really know a good analogy for it.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (30:07.823)
I know, that’s what I was trying to think of is like, it’s, don’t know, it’s so funny. It’s the difference between like, yeah, I don’t know, I’ll have to think. I’ll have to think on that, but yeah.

Kenna Limp (30:18.23)
I know, me too. Just to make it easier for people.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (30:21.585)
Yeah. But it’s just, there is impact. We’re not saying there’s not impact from red light devices, but it’s such a small dose that you’re going to need so, so, so, so much more of it, so much more frequently to get that therapeutic effect. And so with the Firefly, you come in, like you said, you do a five, 10 minute treatment once, maybe twice a week. That’s it.

Kenna Limp (30:35.36)
Hmm.

Kenna Limp (30:43.063)
Bye.

Right, and that’s also depending on what they’re coming in for. If it’s more severe cases like my neuropathy patients or any back pain or any pain anywhere, they do come a little bit more often.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (30:55.003)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (30:59.195)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (31:00.192)
You know, I have some clients coming in three days a week or a four if they’re able to. But it does depend on like what you’re going through. And I always give my protocols to my clients and I talk them through it. And we definitely consult about where they’re at and if we need to kind of change, you know, how much they’re doing or if they need to increase it as well.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (31:16.255)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (31:19.663)
Yeah, completely. there is a difference between when you’re in…

what I might call like treatment phase. And for some people, depending on what it is, if it’s ALS, if it’s neuropathy, that might be way more frequent than if we’re doing parasites. And we are going to talk a little bit about like broad protocols so people just can kind of have a sense in their head. But what I want to go to next is can you speak to some of the other cases like ALS? You even, I think, just mentioned kind of pain in general. And do you have some stories for those of how it’s been impactful for patients?

Kenna Limp (31:28.919)
me.

Kenna Limp (31:49.898)
Yeah, I do have some that I did want to talk about. I can come back to like the ALS one. I think that one’s a more in-detailed one. But there is one that I do want to talk about. It’s something that some of my family is going through.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (31:58.555)
Yeah, yeah.

Nuanced. Yeah.

Kenna Limp (32:10.968)
you know clients that I’m close with have so Hashimoto’s and EBV are actually pretty common I’m hearing more about it now than ever and one of my clients actually was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s disease and chronic EBV which is Epstein-Barr virus

Leigh Ann Lindsey (32:15.185)
Mmm.

Kenna Limp (32:31.57)
And that’s completely depleting. mean, energy-wise, brain fog, inflammation, digestion issues, I mean, it kind of all comes with it. Body aches and so, like, or even pain, like joint pain. So with this, it’s a little hard because a lot of the times people are changing their diets, they’re supplementing or medications are involved.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (32:42.704)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (32:57.332)
But my client, actually, after just a couple sessions, her body was like calming down. And she can feel it too, even while we were doing treatments. So the inflammation in her joints eased, which, you know, the pain eased up. Her sleep was improving. She had more energy, mental clarity. And those who have EBV or Hashimoto’s, they’re really tired. Like that’s one of main symptoms is chronic fatigue.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:03.31)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:24.1)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (33:27.236)
so her mood became stabilized. She was able to actually feel like herself going out. We did a total of, I believe, five treatments when she really, really started seeing like a huge shift. But she was also coming consistently. I think she was coming three days a week. and we were treating her stomach, her thyroid area.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:38.607)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:42.96)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:49.243)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (33:49.42)
so the throat, and then also the head too. So I do like doing the head because it does stimulate the brain and the mitochondria, all that stuff as well. But the throat, I mean, she said her lymphatic system was like really in flow and you can feel like less swelling in her throat. she just, in all, like I haven’t had to see her.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:04.945)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (34:15.044)
in quite a bit of time because she’s been feeling really good and she keeps me updated and kind of reaches out but she does like a routine checkup just to do like a scan for toxin load and then also once in a while she’ll come in and just do treatments with light therapy just to kind of help the maintenance of the you know not feeling that way anymore.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:22.671)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:32.836)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. And we’ll speak to that a bit, because I do think I’ve said before a firefly, I haven’t been great about it this year, but it’s one of those things that I love to do, honestly, like twice a year, if not quarterly.

Because the reality is we are gonna get exposed to things. It’s not about trying to make sure we never ever ever get exposed to pathogens. We’re gonna get exposed and if we keep on it with some kind of regularity, they’re not gonna be able to build up to a level that becomes really really harmful. I’m so curious about if you had any clients with Lyme.

Kenna Limp (34:55.64)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (35:05.92)
Right.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (35:11.602)
and how some of those experiences have been because I feel like I just hear so many stories of individuals who are experiencing Lyme disease and it just feels like this thing that they can’t, no one’s able to figure it out for them and it lasts for months and if not years and years and years and you know the doctors will prescribe some kind of pharmaceutical that doesn’t seem to be that helpful so I’d love to hear if you have any stories related to Lyme.

Kenna Limp (35:36.596)
Yeah, you know, a lot of my clients who actually have Lyme, they have a hard time getting diagnosed with it. And that’s, you know, something that they’ve actually had issues with for quite some time.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (35:46.075)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (35:52.408)
But a lot of times the patients who have Lyme, I mean, I always scan them. I do an F scan on them all the time. I work pretty routinely with that just to kind of see where the toxin load is. I mean, it can actually show you the bacterias on the F scan for Lyme disease. And we just treat you back with those bacterias. I do like to kind of take it not too aggressively. A lot of my clients who have had Lyme exposure or symptoms, it can actually

Leigh Ann Lindsey (36:01.115)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (36:08.038)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (36:22.362)
if they did too much treatment can make them feel a little icky. So, and that’s kind of with mold too. It’s just, it’s a very intense disease. So.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (36:26.491)
Yeah, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (36:34.107)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (36:35.544)
What I treat my patients with Lyme is a lot of them end up with like the muscle aches or like the joint aches as well. But the reason why I want to treat with light therapy or just doing some type of detox is to actually increase their microcirculation and their lymphatic drainage as well, which will actually help with taking out the waste for any inflammation or toxins from damaged cells, tissues,

vital for Lyme patients because they’re dealing with high toxic load in their body. And that’s why people experience a lot of high symptoms because their toxic toxin load is so high.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (37:08.752)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (37:16.974)
Yeah, well, I want to speak to this because this is one of the things I love about Firefly is it could just be a device that outputs frequencies that target all these pathogens and there’s no sort of healing element involved, right? So it’s just targeting the pathogens, it’s killing off those pathogens, those, you know, and the reality is this is what

the idea of Herck’s reactions are when we detox or kill off a pathogen, it then releases that into the bloodstream, especially if it’s something like parasites, they’re holding candida, mold, any number of different things, bacteria, viruses.

even though we’re killing something off, it can actually increase inflammation acutely while we’re starting to detox that. But what I love about Firefly is that super, super intense red light and near infrared light and blue light is helping mitigate some of those negative die-off effects of this. And in fact is so healing at the same time. And I think this is where a lot of therapies fall short is they’re almost too acute. They’re only focused on

quote unquote killing the bad thing, while not also simultaneously supporting the body and bringing in some of these different nourishing elements. And what I just see, whether it’s supplements or modalities, the things that are the most effective are the ones that do both.

Kenna Limp (38:35.599)
you

Kenna Limp (38:41.208)
Mm-hmm, yeah, well, I mean 100 % and I feel like you have to kind of attack it in different ways.

or just a different approach. I I always recommend with patients who have Lyme or even mold, like a comprehensive treatment plan to actually help the body address co-infections. It is important to kind of, obviously I want my patients to do an F scan and Firefly because it is super beneficial for the body and very non-invasive. But sometimes you do need a comprehensive treatment plan that goes along with F scan and Firefly. And I’m able to inform my client,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (38:57.073)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (39:12.604)
Totally.

Kenna Limp (39:17.796)
hey, you know, it might be beneficial to go see this doctor, this naturopathic doctor, or to do this testing, or a mycotoxin test for mold to see where you’re at, you know? So it is good to kind of have a comprehensive treatment plan to go along with like, a spin and firefly.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (39:28.967)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (39:33.277)
Totally.

Yeah, well, because the reality is everything I’ve really I don’t know that I’ve really seen an illness that’s not multifaceted in some level being affected by lifestyle habits, nutrition, sleep habits, stress habits. So to that end, we’re never here on the show just like and this is the treatment that is the end all be all the only thing you’ll ever need to do again to treat this thing. No, it’s here’s a really powerful modality. Here’s how it can be supportive.

Kenna Limp (39:42.559)
a right.

Kenna Limp (39:57.068)
Right? Right?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:03.48)
And you’re gonna need to, more likely than not, also address this issue from multiple angles.

Kenna Limp (40:09.888)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree completely.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:14.823)
I love that. Can we talk a little bit about maybe a client testimonial or a story with parasites specifically? Because it’s just so fun.

Kenna Limp (40:20.726)
Yeah, yeah, of course. mean, you know, it’s crazy because when I talk about this stuff, I think people get kind of like weirded out or grossed out.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:29.267)
I don’t know, feel like my audience is probably pretty used to it by now.

Kenna Limp (40:33.366)
I mean, I love it. love when people are like open to this stuff and I love talking about it. So, you know, I have clients who, you know, also show me their stool. So like for me, this is normal, but yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:41.779)
Yeah. Yeah. You’re like, what do you mean? What do you mean you don’t look at pictures of poop every day?

Kenna Limp (40:47.252)
Right? I’m like, hey, like, show me, go for it, send it to me. And, you know, we should be looking at our stool regardless, though. I mean, our stool tells us a lot about our health, but I mean, going back on the pathogens and the parasites, specifically the parasites, a lot of people have been dealing with.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:54.867)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (41:05.356)
parasites for a long, time and they don’t even know it. They don’t even notice it. They have no idea how to test for it. It’s not a conversation that’s brought up often, especially I think in traditional medicine. So a lot of my clients don’t find out they have something going on until they do a test with me or they do a stool sample. But even then, lot of the stool samples come back negative.

And that’s also because if you’re not grabbing the actual source, the parasite, and getting it tested, it’s not going to come back positive. So I do tell my patients, if you’re going to do a stool sample, make sure you’re looking at your stool. I know it’s not the most fun thing, but you want to make sure you’re getting an accurate testing. And they don’t talk about that stuff either. They just say, me your stool sample. But with a lot of my patients, some of the parasites are, you know, they have the most

Leigh Ann Lindsey (41:33.766)
Right.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (41:44.113)
Yeah.

Yep.

Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (41:58.392)
the most common ones in their body and some of these you know lay 25,000 eggs per day they have a whole entire life cycle or they can stay in your body for up to 30 years I mean you know this stuff eventually can cause those you know autoimmune issues later down the road chronic you know conditions

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:05.585)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:09.863)
Yep.

Kenna Limp (42:20.66)
other problems. mean, there are toxins in your body that sit there over time and not all of our bodies are able to actually flush them out on our own.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:24.776)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:29.523)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and we have detox systems, but to that end, when we start to have multiple things going on, poor diet paired with, you know, this one viral kind of dormant viral thing that’s happening paired with now this parasite, it just makes it so much harder for the body to be able to fight that thing off that maybe under the best conditions, it actually could fight off. But we’re so inundated. Yeah.

Kenna Limp (42:36.78)
Right.

Kenna Limp (42:42.402)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (42:51.596)
Right, and our body’s in overdrive. Yeah, our body’s in overdrive at that point and it’s kind of like, okay, where do I focus on your immune system? So you kind of want to make sure you’re flushing out those toxins so your body can fight whatever it actually needs to if it’s a chronic condition in your system. And what I found is even if you have certain parasites in, your liver or your pancreas, when you do blood work, your enzymes or your levels can be increased.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:59.752)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:09.809)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:21.52)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (43:21.53)
And that’s something to definitely watch over for. And I’m not saying that’s all the time. However, it’s a possibility that you could have a parasite in that organ.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:31.1)
Yeah, if your liver enzymes are super, super high, it could speak to some parasitic activity. There can be other contributors to that as well, but that’s an interesting cue. Yeah. know, something that I heard years and years ago when I was with the Cancer Center was that they had never seen a cancer patient who didn’t have parasites.

Kenna Limp (43:33.922)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (43:39.116)
Right, Yeah, yeah.

Kenna Limp (43:50.976)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:52.056)
And it just shakes you up because you realize how multifaceted these things are. And to that end, I’m sure you have a lot of clients coming to you specifically because they’re having gut symptoms. But I know, you know, us here at Ascent, we’re referring patients to you all the time who maybe aren’t having gut symptoms per se, but they’re dealing with some kind of chronic illness. They might be experiencing cancer. And we just know because we’ve been in this field so long and worked with so many cancer and chronic illness that

Kenna Limp (44:04.536)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (44:12.12)
Great.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:22.55)
Pathogens are probably a component on some level, whether it’s parasites, viruses, dormant viruses, Candida something.

Kenna Limp (44:25.794)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (44:29.09)
Hmm. Yeah, for sure. I mean, at one point I heard that when you look under a microscope, a parasite in cancer cells, they look very similar. And obviously, you know, they’re doing more more studies on stuff like that. But I 100 % agree that toxins in your body, especially parasites, can be a cause for health conditions like that, for sure. Yeah, for sure.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:39.443)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:51.675)
Yeah, yeah, a contributor, a contributor to that chronic inflammation that builds up that max capacity where the body’s no longer able to do the things it needs to do. So, okay, so tell us what it looks like. If someone were to book an F scan and book a Firefly and we’ll make sure people know how to do that, what does that look like when they come into your office for the first time?

Kenna Limp (44:58.338)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (45:01.993)
Wait, wait.

Kenna Limp (45:12.79)
Yeah, so every client of mine will do an F scan that takes about five minutes. The test, the diagnostic test is actually about a minute, so it’s pretty fast. and then I go over it with you as well. We do a treatment, which is firefly that same day you do a diagnostic testing and the firefly, depending on what’s going on, we have that, you know, consultation as well. It’s 10 minutes on the gut for the pathogen load and then another area of concern if there’s something else going on. so in all my.

appointments range from you know 30 minutes long.

And then I do recommend at least five treatments and then a re-scan at the end. Now the re-scan is on a different day. We don’t treat and then re-scan you right after because it’s just going to pick up the same frequencies again. When you come back for every treatment after the first time you came in, it’s normally about 10 to 20 minutes. So it’s not a full half hour because you already did the diagnostic testing. And then we do the re-scan at the end, which can take up to 30 minutes.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (45:51.473)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (45:59.763)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:09.04)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (46:16.194)
if you end up doing another treatment.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:17.679)
Mm-hmm, yeah. What is, I think, we might need to break this up for some of the different case studies, but like for example with parasites, what would be that frequency that they would do those five sessions?

Kenna Limp (46:29.858)
So I say about two to three days apart.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:32.392)
Okay.

Kenna Limp (46:33.208)
So if somebody came in on a Monday, I would say you can come in Wednesday or Thursday. Some of my clients are good with Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I never, I rarely do back to back unless you feel okay to do so because the treatment does stay in your body for 14 hours. So it’s really working that whole entire time. Some people don’t even get like a reaction as in symptoms within like that 24 to 48 hour mark. So I do want to allow your body to be able to take in the treatment and

respond naturally, you know, without having to put more treatment in and it’s just too much for the body. So some of my clients have been seeing me for, you know, quite some time. So I’m able to do a little bit more back to back sometimes depending on the condition. But I do say for pathogen load, it’s about two to three days apart.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:10.493)
Totally.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:23.857)
Okay. And then same question for maybe like the neuropathy or some of the nerve stuff that we talked about.

Kenna Limp (47:28.312)
Yeah, so I have some clients coming in three days. They can break it up from two days in a row to one day later that week, kind of depending on their schedule. So everyone’s busy. So we kind of figure out what works for them. But I do recommend with any neuropathy, pain, or even like Alzheimer’s or Parkinson’s, any of that kind of stuff to do it more frequently.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:40.371)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:52.211)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (47:52.856)
So two days apart if possible. I wouldn’t do treatment every single day because there is a such thing as too much treatment. So for Alzheimer’s I would do about three days a week and then for any pain I do it about four days a week just because we’re only doing a certain area. And I’ve seen the most benefits with each of those patients with that timeframe.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (48:00.851)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (48:17.64)
And then for some of the nerve stuff and brain stuff, is it still like that five recommended or does that number go up a little bit? Yeah.

Kenna Limp (48:24.44)
It does change. It does change. So the pathogen load is five, but depending on like Alzheimer’s dementia and how their case is, we do more than five treatments, definitely. I mean, I have some people who will do 12 or 15 or 18 and they’ll just buy packages. So it’s cheaper for them. But yeah, with that stuff, definitely I do recommend more treatments.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (48:33.235)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (48:46.556)
Yeah, well, and I think that just makes sense though, because when something has developed into, example, a nerve disorder or a brain disorder, it speaks to, this is something that’s been going on for a long, long time. It’s gonna take time to start to reverse that. So I had another question I wanted to ask about.

Kenna Limp (48:52.919)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (48:57.964)
Mm-hmm. Right. Definitely.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:07.89)
Well, I wanted to circle back to the ALS to see if you wanted to go into that a little bit deeper. this is what I wanted to ask though really quickly, because I’ve seen this happen and I think it’s worth noting here while we have you on the call, people will do, let’s talk about pathogens. They’ll do those initial five, they’ll re-scan and why might some of those same pathogens still be there or a new set of pathogens show up?

Kenna Limp (49:11.841)
Okay.

Okay.

Kenna Limp (49:21.666)
This is… This is…

Kenna Limp (49:32.544)
Yeah, so when my patients rescan, it’s kind of like peeling an onion. So you have to treat those outer layers to get to different layers in the body, basically. So when you rescan, other things can come up, but the stuff that showed the first time is no longer showing anymore. And now your immune system’s like, OK, let’s attack this now, because it’s able to. Some of my clients will come back after treatments and.

Their stuff is so low or it’s not even showing up on their scan that they don’t need to continue treatment with me for that time being. I do still recommend coming in about every three or every six months just to get checked or even sooner than if you’re feeling icky or you’re going on vacation or traveling anywhere. So, but.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:06.504)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:11.709)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (50:22.56)
I totally lost my train of thought.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:24.372)
Why might new things show up or why might, you know, can some parasites be sticky, like take more than five treatments?

Kenna Limp (50:28.411)
yeah.

Kenna Limp (50:33.664)
Yeah, so I mean it also depends on the life cycle that a pathogen has too. I mean for example, I’m sure a lot of people have heard of liver flukes. They actually lay up to 25,000 eggs per day. So their life cycle is pretty ongoing. So you do want to attack them a little bit more aggressively. A lot of the times that one is the hardest one to get rid of. So they tend to, what I’ve seen with clients, show up on the next scans. There are other things that come up with the flukes. However,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:38.194)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:48.819)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:54.846)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (51:04.038)
When we continue doing treatments, the other stuff will actually flush out, but the flukes tend to stay. Now they like to feed off of bad cells, your nutrients, all that stuff. So we’re kind of making a home for them in the body, or they feed off heavy metals. So those ones are a little bit trickier. So they would need more treatment. And I do tell my clients, you know, five or 10 if possible, just because they are a lot to get rid of.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:07.762)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:15.796)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:30.16)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that’s kind of what I saw. I remember in 2020 when I was going through the cancer, the liver flukes were the ones that were really, really hard for me to get rid of. Yeah.

Kenna Limp (51:38.09)
Yeah, I mean, yeah, and you can see them in your stool. I mean, some of these pathogens, when you’re detoxing, they do flush out in your stool. the most common one that I tell my patients is look at your stool and if you see little white little specks, they’re kind of like like little sesame seeds. But those are eggs. Those are parasite eggs. I know. And then the adults are like a tomato peel or an onion peel. So they can be

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:56.891)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:05.044)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (52:06.564)
Different shapes sizes if you were to look them up online, you’ll kind of see how they look And sometimes people have to actually dig through their stool, which I know not everyone are diggers and I totally get it but

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:11.272)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:18.004)
Not necessary. No.

Kenna Limp (52:22.904)
You know, it’s not for everyone, but my clients are super into it and I think that’s awesome that they’re into their health and they want to know what’s going on. But the eggs will be able to kind of poke out of your stool so they’re easier to see. Or even worms, tape worms, You can definitely see that stuff, hookworms.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:28.573)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:36.528)
Yeah. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:42.996)
Totally. Yeah, I mean, with caution, look up those images on the internet, because it might be overwhelming. Yeah, but it’s so funny. I love that clients can take a picture of something going on and show you, and you can be like, yep, this is what that is.

Kenna Limp (52:46.784)
Yeah, yeah, I mean if you want to. Yeah, yeah, I mean you don’t have to, but it’s it’s it’s there.

Kenna Limp (52:59.392)
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, when I’ve worked in the medical field for so long, mean, seeing somebody’s stool is the least of my worries. Like, I’m like, hey, no problem.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (53:07.796)
Yeah. Yeah, totally. Okay, did you want to speak to ALS for a second?

Kenna Limp (53:15.708)
Yes. So I’ve only had a couple ALS clients. I haven’t actually had too many as of right now. I know that there are some other practitioners that have actually helped ALS patients. And that’s a seminar I’m actually going to in Vegas.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (53:22.119)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (53:40.344)
So yeah, I’ll be able to actually find out more information on that specifically.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (53:43.092)
Mm.

Well, let me ask this real quick, because I can cut this whole section if you’re kind of like, I don’t know if I can speak to it well enough right now. OK, we’ll cut it. Yeah. OK, let me just make one more note on the time. He’s fine. He does it so quickly. So it’s awesome. No, no, no, no, after. But we love you, Alan. Thank you, Alan.

Kenna Limp (53:51.244)
I feel like your sheet didn’t speak on it yet. Yeah, until after, know, I find out the info. You’re like, here’s another edit.

Kenna Limp (54:03.843)
does he do it during it?

Thanks, Alan. I don’t know who you are, but thank you.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (54:13.372)
Okay, so then let’s talk about how people can book and then I might want to circle back one more time to just that regularity of coming back in on an annual or semi-annual, but how can people book with you? What’s the best way?

Kenna Limp (54:28.096)
Yeah, so people can book through my website, is mindfullivingandwellness.co. You can also book at Ascent on their website as well. The easiest way, I believe, is through Ascent, but my mindful living and wellness website will take you straight to their page as well. So that way you can kind of see everything that, you know, we also offer too that can be beneficial for, you know, detoxing, all that stuff. But so mindfullivingandwellness.co. I do have

clients who text my phone number so they can always reach out to me that way and it is easier through text than email for me so if anybody did want to schedule that way they can actually just text me and it goes directly to my phone and I’ll respond within you know honestly 12 hours so

Leigh Ann Lindsey (55:08.421)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (55:16.582)
Yeah, OK, well, we can make sure if you’re comfortable, we’ll put that phone number in the show notes for people to find. And we’ll make sure the website’s linked down below too, so it’s just super, super easy for people. Was there anything that we didn’t kind of, I just looked up and I see the full moon right outside right now and I’m just laughing. So it’s almost the full moon then, because it’s like so big and bright right now. But that is funny.

Kenna Limp (55:19.862)
Yeah, yeah, of course.

Perfect. Awesome.

Kenna Limp (55:32.077)
yeah.

It’s almost the full moon. Yeah. I do kind of want to talk about the full moon and also the cell core. Briefly, it’s not going to be long. So we know the full moon is tomorrow. And what that means is parasites are actually the most active at that time.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (55:44.134)
Yeah, let’s do that. Okay, yeah. Yeah, totally.

Kenna Limp (56:03.064)
and I do provide like a parasite cleanse, which is, you know, by cell core. So it has para one, para two, para three, and then a biotoxin binder. A lot of people will do this around the full moon time because you know, the parasites are the most active at that time. it’s three different levels. There’s beginner, intermediate, and advanced. So if you’ve never actually done a parasite cleanse,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (56:13.919)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (56:29.292)
then you would do the beginner and then you’d kind of work your way up. But I would kind of gradually work your way up on that. But I do sell that here at my center. It’s also on my website. But if you guys have questions or if they have questions about that stuff, they can always contact me as well.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (56:31.453)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (56:42.303)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (56:48.615)
Yeah, so it sounds like that’s something that you help facilitate during that week of the full moon. You’re telling them which cell core cleanse to do in conjunction with the F scan and the Firefly treatments.

Kenna Limp (57:00.108)
Correct, yeah, I mean, I think it’s super beneficial for anybody to do a parasite cleanse. I mean, people just do it around the full moon because the body around the full moon actually naturally produces higher levels of serotonin.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:05.973)
Totally.

Kenna Limp (57:18.644)
And parasites use that to their advantage. So it actually increases their movement, their reproductive activity, which is why so many people will notice like symptoms like bloating, restlessness, irritability, or sleep issues. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s the best time from studies and a lot of these parasite cleanses to actually do a full moon cleanse. You can do it at any point, but I’ve found the most benefits around the full moon time for those cleanses.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:25.909)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:31.675)
headaches, poor sleep, yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:42.261)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:47.839)
Mm-hmm.

Kenna Limp (57:48.312)
And then with addition to Firefly treatments is super beneficial because we’re also helping with the inflammation and actually the circulation throughout the body and microbial load and lymphatic flow. So it’s all very beneficial to do together.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (58:01.245)
Yeah, totally. How I understand it is the rest of the month, because they come out to your point, they feed on that serotonin that gets produced in excess during the full moon. But the rest of the month, can sometimes kind of like, this is going to be so gross, like, know, embed themselves in the tissue and they’re not as active. They’re not moving around as much. Whereas during that full moon, they’re kind of coming out of their little caves, so to speak, to…

Kenna Limp (58:22.253)
me.

Kenna Limp (58:26.454)
Yeah, they’re out and partying and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (58:30.887)
So it makes, it can make the treatment a little bit more effective, even though outside of the full moon, it’s still very, very effective because those frequencies in red light can penetrate all the way deep into that tissue. Yeah.

Kenna Limp (58:41.272)
Okay.

You’re right. Yep. Yep. So that’s why it doesn’t necessarily mean with Firefly that you have to do it around the full moon time because of the penetration of how deep it goes into the body. Because those parasites do burrow. They will hide. They can burrow holes in your organs as well. So like that’s why light therapy. mean, yeah, I know. When you get into this world of like the parasites and pathogens, I mean, it’s a whole nother dimension. I’m telling you. But it’s I mean, it’s so important to know this stuff.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (58:55.306)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (59:00.969)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (59:08.348)
Yeah.

Kenna Limp (59:12.186)
because it is affecting a lot of our health and we don’t even realize it.

So, but yeah, yeah. So it’s good to do the Firefly Light Therapy along with any type of Parasite Cleanse. I do tell a lot of my clients too, you can always check with your practitioner to make sure that that cleanse is suitable for you. I am a nutritionist, so I do go over all that stuff as well and like blood work and lab results and just any type of testing. So I can always, you know, help them with guiding them through what’s good and what’s not for them.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (59:31.701)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (59:46.442)
Yeah, I love that. Well, I’m sure there’ll be more questions that come up for the audience, but we’ll make sure your contact information is in the show notes so they can reach out. Otherwise, this was so fantastic. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, well, we love you, and it’s been such a joy to have you here. I know. See you in two seconds when we get off this call.

Kenna Limp (59:57.654)
I know, thank you so much. I appreciate you. Thank you. I love you too. I’ll see you in the next room.