THE ACCRESCENT™ PODCAST EPISODE 226

Leigh Ann Lindsey (00:00.962)
Well, Jewel and Taylor, welcome to the Accrescent Podcast.

Jewel Zimmer (00:05.168)
Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having us. Happy to be here.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (00:08.806)
It’s funny because we’ve met in person now a couple times in professional ways here at Ascent and then in like personal ways, beep bopping around Dana Point. So it’ll be fun though to get to really sink into this conversation and hear so much of your guys’ stories. And with that said, I think such a fun place to start is just how was June a birthed?

and maybe like how did you two collectively come together to birth Juno, but then also what were your sort of individual stories that led you here and then maybe to each other?

Jewel Zimmer (00:40.932)
Yeah, yeah, well, we definitely have.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (00:42.284)
And I’ll let you guys sort of tag team who goes first and who answers what.

Jewel Zimmer (00:46.79)
We definitely have very different backgrounds, but you know, our values were always the same and similar outcomes to what happened too. I think, you know, for my personal story, I in my twenties experienced really bad gut issues and I also, you know, was working for startups, long hours, late nights.

Not eating well and it was really disrupting my gut and I didn’t have healthy elimination It was showing up in my skin. It was showing up in my mood and at the time I kept going to all these different doctors and Would be recommended, you know a prescription after prescription or Miralax or these band-aid short fixes Instead of anyone really trying to get to the root cause and at the same time

I had all this acne, which now I know was totally tied to my gut, and going to all these dermatologists and doing laser treatments, more prescriptions, more, you know, take this and that, and just the amount of money, effort, and time that was spent on trying to fix these things versus people truly trying to get to the root cause. And I think at one point I just got so fed up with all the synthetics.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:51.554)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (02:04.526)
time.

Jewel Zimmer (02:16.52)
and the prescriptions and really thought there had to be something better and natural, plant powered. I’ve always wanted to lean more towards that versus pumping my body full of synthetic pharmaceuticals. And so I think for me, that was really the eye-opening moment in my life where I’m like, this isn’t right. This isn’t how it should be.

Jewel all let her tell her story, but it was sort of like similar in terms of like I think we all have that story of being frustrated with the current medical system.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:00.3)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (03:02.102)
Yeah, I mean, honestly, looking back on it, I’m so, I feel like I’ve been so blessed, like I’ve been so healthy. I haven’t really had any very serious health issues. I did have, you know, after I had my oldest daughter, I did fall into very serious postpartum anxiety. And so that was the first experience that I really had with the healthcare system. And it failed me immediately because I felt unheard. I felt

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:19.47)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:28.472)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (03:31.969)
unseen and I felt really fearful honestly. And I’ve never been somebody who you know

Leigh Ann Lindsey (03:36.713)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (03:43.559)
doesn’t walk down the path less traveled. You know, I always am exploring and I’m curious. And when this happened to me, you know, the doctors were very quick to prescribe an SSRI and something to help with sleep. But for me, it was, it was very simply one day I woke up and I was completely in another brain. It was about six months after I had her. And the easiest way to explain it was my brain was very, very dark. There was not a positive thought in

and it was really difficult to manage and to live in. And so I really had to, I really had to take the time and research and educate myself.

and explore other ways to get better. And I was actually able to do that through different types of doctors. I worked with an acupuncturist who was able to balance my nervous system even to get to the point of being able to find a doctor to actually know what the root cause was. And what we figured out after doing a series of hormone tests, which I thought for sure it was a hormone being postpartum, we found out that my body wasn’t producing or storing amino acids.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (04:41.326)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (04:55.784)
properly and fast forward several years after studying the microbiome at Stanford and studying, you know, brain health at the Aming clinics, amino acids, they start in your gut but they’re either acting as neurotransmitters or they’re precursors to your neurotransmitters. So with 90 % of your serotonin and 50 % of your dopamine being created in the gut, it became very clear that this is why I was having this brain issue and, you know, long story short, went on a mega dose of amino acids and within nine months,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (05:11.17)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (05:25.734)
I was in full remission and never relapsed and it’s been years. And so that was the first time where I realized, wow, like if you get sick, if your brain gets sick, if your gut gets sick, who’s going to be there to help you? And that was, mean, took years, it took like several more dots, you know, to connect down the line before Juno was actually born and the two of us came together. But that was the big aha moment of like,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (05:28.203)
Wow.

Jewel Zimmer (05:55.691)
Wow, there’s a really big missing piece to women’s health and like overall vitality.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:02.072)
Hmm.

Yeah, so you guys, anyone who follows you or has met you in person can see what a dynamic duo you are. And this is a little off topic, but I still think it’s fun. Like what makes you guys work so well together? It seems like you probably balance each other out really well. What are like the pieces of the puzzle that each of you bring to this?

Jewel Zimmer (06:25.272)
the yin and the yang. They’re very different and I think that’s But they’re also so similar. Like we walk into the office and we’re like wearing the same thing or wearing the same colors or like have the same taste in things. So it’s like as different as we are, we’re like very similar too.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:27.118)
I’m

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:44.214)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (06:44.934)
probably because we spend so much time together. Yeah, mean, we just do, think we have different jobs within the company, right? And so we bring different perspective. And that’s so helpful when you’re building something and growing something because you never just want one perspective of anything, right? Yeah, and I think even our backgrounds. my background was always in marketing and design and branding.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:47.284)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (06:54.103)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (07:14.898)
helped launch multiple fashion brands, worked within the fashion and jewelry space, and then I ended up going and studying medicinal plants at Cornell. But really I did that to help with marketing. So I wanted to better educate myself. I was so passionate about plants, but I wanted to help better educate myself so I then can weave this into our marketing and our communications to our customers. And so I oversee

you know, brand and marketing, Jewel Overseas, more of the operations and products. But we really do work on almost everything together. And I think it’s so important to have, you know, different perspective, different backgrounds, different expertise, different experiences, even, you know, we are both mothers, but also going through many of the same health, not issues, but like changes through

Leigh Ann Lindsey (07:54.071)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (08:12.684)
Yeah, transitions.

Jewel Zimmer (08:14.407)
Yeah, transitions or even when I had my little babies, Jewel’s like, oh, I’ve been through that and would give me advice on it. And so it’s like having these different experience, but also it’s when we both align on something too. Like, I’m like, oh, you know, lately I’ve been experiencing this and she goes, oh, me too. And my friend that I, you know, just had coffee with was saying the same thing. And so it’s like, when you have these multiple experiences that align, it’s when we know we’re

on the right track or when it’s like, I find a graphic or create something or have this copy and Joel might tweak it or be like, I love that too. And that’s when we know that we’ve like hit gold or are definitely aligned. So that’s when the magic happens. Yeah, I think we both have like a deep reverence for one, solving the problem and getting to the root cause. And then two, like living in a beautiful space. I was a chef in a past life.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:12.589)
Hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (09:14.421)
But I was a fine dining chef, so it wasn’t just like a fine dining pastry chef. So it wasn’t just about working with food. It was creating experiences, right? It was creating all these different sensory experiences and then communicating that through all the different senses, right? Not just on the plate, not just by flavor. And so it’s, there’s so much of our backgrounds that are so similar because we’re both creatives in that way, you know?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:22.894)
completely.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (09:42.639)
It’s so fun and it really comes through. mean, if anyone goes to your Instagram, like it’s nothing if not such a chic, sexy, cool, hip, amazing brand. So you guys have absolutely achieved that. But to that end, the quality is there too, right? I think there’s a lot of people that have a brand and have an aesthetic.

but the quality of the products isn’t there to actually support and hold that up. And that’s what I love is all of those pieces of the puzzle are there for you guys. I’m so aesthetic is so important to me. Like my office, my home space. So it’s, I love when all of those pieces come together. Cause it, to me, it like makes me feel safe on all fronts of like, this is a company that’s considering every single facet of this and my experience with their.

Jewel Zimmer (10:17.297)
coming? Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (10:33.487)
product and their brand and they care about every facet of my experience with their brand, even down to the aesthetic of this picture.

Jewel Zimmer (10:40.975)
Well, no box is going unchecked for sure. And like with my food background, the the quality of the ingredients and how they work in the body is so important. mean, we just know like simply like the difference between an orange from the farmers market and an orange from the grocery store is going to taste completely different. And then you get down to the varietals and how old it is versus how fresh it is. And so having this like deep understanding of nutrients.

in food and being Junip being that we’re plant forward and plant powered all that is really important. You know, it’s not just about going to a manufacturer and saying we’d like to use X Y and Z in this dosage in the formula. It’s going to the manufacturer and saying we want to work with this supplier because they farm a certain way because they extract a certain way they dry a certain way and we end up getting more nutrient dense products in the end.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (11:21.903)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (11:40.159)
Yeah, these are all the things I’m excited to get into. Sorry, did I cut you off, Taylor?

Jewel Zimmer (11:44.934)
Well, I was just going to say that that’s number one for us is always the product efficacy that it truly does work and is helping, you know, people feel better. That has always been our mission. That’s always been our goal. And I think, you know, the brand looking beautiful is just a byproduct like that. That’s just because it’s, know, what we would put out into the world. It’s never been the number one focus. It’s always been the efficacy, the ingredients.

and that the products truly do transform people’s lives.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (12:18.283)
Yeah, I think what would be fun is to do a broad overview of the products Junah has. And then we were talking off air. I want to share the couple that I’ve tried and have really, really loved and a lot of us here at Ascent have really, really loved. And then get into some like your most newest recent product launch, the Smart Burn. But something I want to ask about actually is I don’t know how long you guys had Junah has been around.

But I’m actually always impressed when companies have a really refined product offering. Because to me, what that speaks to is you’re not just slapping labels on things and pumping out products for the sake of having a product for every single thing. You’re really rolling things out with a ton of intention.

And like you said, reverence for what’s needed. How can we make this different? So that’s just something I even observe when I go to your website. like, I love that it’s a very refined offering we have here. To me, that speaks to the intention that’s going into each product.

Jewel Zimmer (13:21.087)
definitely. And everything’s meant to be utilized together too as a routine and easily fit into someone’s everyday routine, not overwhelm them. We’re already all overwhelmed. And so how can we simplify and make this easy on people and take some things away? We’re always designing.

products that we personally need and truly want to integrate into our personal lives and our routines. we don’t just put things out there because maybe they’re trending or other people are creating those products. Like everything truly is so intentional and so much thought effort goes into each one and also time. So we’ve been around for six years, but you know,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (13:59.683)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (14:11.63)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (14:15.048)
product we personally test and refine and iterate on so it’s not a quick process to launch a

Leigh Ann Lindsey (14:22.413)
Yeah, yeah. Can you give us the list of all the products and then we’ll get into some of them? I wish we had time to go into every single one because I’m sure there’s a million amazing things we could say about all of them. But maybe let’s start with just a broad list of the products and then we’ll see where that takes us.

Jewel Zimmer (14:41.404)
Yeah, we have six products. We have our detox chlorophyll drops.

We have our nightcap sleep gummies. We have our digestive enzymes, our gut therapy, which is all about the gut-brain connection. We have our SmartBurn, which is our newest product, and that’s all about metabolic wellness. And then we have our microbiome IQ, which is an at-home gut health test that tests for 14,000 different bacteria and fungi in your gut and then reports on the top 40.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (15:14.423)
Wow. Did you guys intentionally go, we need to start with gut health?

Jewel Zimmer (15:19.664)
Yes, I mean we really wanted, I’d say gut health is the foundation of…

our collection because that’s truly the foundation of our overall health. We really do believe that our gut potentially is even our first brain. so you really need to, we always start with the first problem, with our top problems. And as we’ve learned through our own studies, that so much stems back to the gut. you almost have to start there, nourish your gut, heal your gut before you can optimize and sort of fix these other

and oftentimes if you heal your gut, can fix these other issues that you might be experiencing.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (16:02.179)
completely all the downstream.

Jewel Zimmer (16:04.092)
Yeah, I think when we think about like the modern world in which we live in and as women, know, what our challenges are, it’s pretty simple, you know, it’s energy, focus, sleep, digestion, and all of those are related to hormones. So while each of us are really unique, there’s really two main systems. And once you balance those two main systems, I feel like, and I’d be curious to hear your

thoughts on this, but I feel like you can live a pretty optimal, a pretty optimized healthy life. And that’s definitely your gut health because like Taylor was saying, it’s so centric to your overall health. And then the second thing is your nervous system, right? Because that’s all about how your body is reacting to stress and that stressors of the outside world, that stressors that are in our body creating all kinds of inflammation, sleep disorders, hormone havoc. And so if we can really work on those

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:01.667)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (17:04.016)
two systems, which all of our products do, they either fit into one or the other, then women tend to feel incredible in their own ways.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:13.803)
Yeah. Yeah. What is one of your top products from a customer base? And then I’ll tell you my two favorites. But I think that’s a fun place to start.

Jewel Zimmer (17:25.256)
Our number one sellers are nightcap sleep gummies.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (17:30.379)
Okay.

Jewel Zimmer (17:32.645)
Like I think that if you don’t sleep or if you just want better sleep like you we all know that feeling of when we’ve had a great sleep and we wake up and we’re like We can like build a rocket ship and take on the world. It’s like we feel good We feel like we look better. It’s all the things and so for somebody who’s really struggling with sleep. This is like Changing their life like changing the game in terms of how they show up every single day at work

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:00.249)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (18:02.379)
People don’t even know or remember what it feels like to wake up feeling refreshed. I think there’s just a huge part of the population that just is used to feeling tired all the time and it’s not normal.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:07.183)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:16.441)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (18:17.897)
And I think what people don’t realize either, and once they start to understand the science of it, makes more sense. But sleep starts in the brain. That’s really where this all happens, right? And so if you’re not sleeping, it’s because there’s imbalances going on in the brain, and those come down to hormones, like your melatonin. And if you’re not sleeping or getting enough of that level three deep sleep, your brain’s not able to clean itself and refresh. It’s waking up foggy.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:38.092)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:44.601)
completely.

Jewel Zimmer (18:47.851)
It’s just a cycle.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (18:48.491)
Yeah, exactly. And then the cascade keeps going, but it’s like this downward spiral that then all it all starts making everything worse. Then I’m up, I’m up, so I’m having more caffeine, which is then making my sleep even worse, which is, you know, it all kind of pairs back and forth. Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (19:05.193)
tired but wired. That’s like the world that so many of us live in.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (19:10.561)
Yeah, so talk to us. So this is one of my favorite of your products. And then the digestive enzymes, which I really want to highlight because I think you’re doing some really cool things there that most other digestive enzymes aren’t doing.

But I really wanted to get into the sleep gummy and again I told you guys off air that all of us here at Ascent are obsessed with it. I heard a ton of people gifted it to family this year. So we’ve all been using it and I test a lot of products. I get a lot of products sent to me to try. I have never found a sleep product that I have liked.

and then continued to take after I tried whatever it was that was sent my way. And your sleep gummies are the first ones that I was ever like, whoa, okay, I’m listening. What’s going on here? And thankfully my sleep is actually pretty good in general. So it’s not the first product I think of that I might need, but that makes it all the more impressive that I found it impactful.

If my sleep is pretty good and it still was improving things for me. So let’s talk about what what’s going on here. How is it different from other sleep products, other melatonin products? What makes it different and maybe so much more impactful?

Jewel Zimmer (20:09.405)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (20:22.888)
Yeah.

Well definitely, I mean you mentioned melatonin, so we’re one of the only brands that has natural form of melatonin. So it’s a phytomelatonin derived from St. John’s wort. Probably over 90 % of the melatonin on the market is synthetic. And what we found too is people were overdosing on melatonin, like taking way too much. Even if you take one milligram, you’re taking way too much melatonin. And so ours is based off a MIT study.

It’s just the optimal doses just as micro dose and it’s just enough to kickstart your body’s own production of melatonin So that that I think is one of the main differences and then it’s a really well rounded out formula has the passion flower which is science back for level 3 deep sleep the 72 trace minerals of magnesium that the GABA the chamomile the tryptophan you do be hops. Yeah

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:14.775)
Hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (21:25.415)
They’re also delicious. Doesn’t hurt and we zero added sugar. So we thought it was really counterintuitive that all these sleep supplements, especially gummies were coated or loaded with sugar. We’re like, no, we can do better. We can do better. We shouldn’t be pumping our bodies full of sugar right before bed. Makes no sense. When formulating any product, it’s so important to us to understand exactly what we’re solving and sleep is very broad, right?

Leigh Ann Lindsey (21:27.317)
Yeah, they are. They’re really good.

Jewel Zimmer (21:55.352)
So we really asked our customer base, like, are your biggest challenges with sleep? Was it falling asleep? Was it staying asleep? Or was it waking up feeling refreshed? And what we found out that it was all of them, but the biggest thing for people was waking up feeling like they had slept. And when you look at over-the-counter prescriptions, I really can’t even name, can I even name any? Ambien, Lunesta, all of these, they don’t, they actually,

Leigh Ann Lindsey (22:13.091)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (22:25.215)
They actually block a receptor to knock you out, but they’re not increasing your stage three deep sleep. They’re not increasing your quality of sleep. In fact, you’re probably even sleeping less because you’re sleeping so poorly. And that’s why you wake up feeling so groggy. And so the idea with this formula, with all of our formulas is to really see what pathways we can open and activate in the body instead of blocking receptors in the body. What works synergistically and help you have the best outcome.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (22:49.706)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (22:55.185)
and in this case it’s sleep. And so we try to hit all the different pathways in the body so that whoever is taking the product, it’s going to work for them. No matter probably what other medications they’re on, because some medications people might be taking might be blocking certain pathways in the body or opening them up even more. So we make sure that it’s hitting every single pathway so that it works for everyone. And not a lot of people do that. They don’t think of it that way.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:17.943)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (23:22.051)
Well, right. It’s to your point, it’s I need this thing to help me fall asleep or a separate product to help me stay asleep or a separate product to make it not groggy in the morning. you know, it’s a little bit of like a Tetris thing that’s happening here. But to your point that I really want to highlight some of the things people might be taking. Sure. Is it like making you unconscious? Yes. Does that mean that the restoration and the repair and the detox that needs to happen in real deep sleep is actually happening?

No, maybe not.

Jewel Zimmer (23:54.219)
You know, I actually love what you just said. Like, it just like sparked something in me. You said like making you unconscious. And I think that that’s so much deeper. Like we can dive so much deeper into that. Because when you’re sleeping, I mean in REM sleep, you’re like releasing DMT, right? In deeper sleep, you’re releasing melatonin. I mean, these things are like happening in like your deep limbic brain and the pineal gland. And this is like, this is where you’re unconscious, your subconscious is.

this is actually where you start understanding what’s going on a very deep level, like what’s going on inside of you. know, and I think sleep is like, it’s such a, it’s honestly such a luxury. It shouldn’t be, but to get asleep where you’re able to like drop into that place, right? In a very healthy and powerful way. It’s like life changing just on that, just on like a quantum level.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (24:33.221)
yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (24:51.506)
That’s probably too much.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (24:51.725)
Yeah. well, I mean, you guys know the work I do. I work with the unconscious mind all the time. So there’s always like an, there’s always like an unconscious metaphor I can bring into this, which is, yes, we’re talking about deep sleep and physical repair and detox and restoration, but sleep is actually, I think our biggest time of metabolizing and it’s

Jewel Zimmer (25:13.609)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:14.733)
biological metabolizing and then it’s also mental, emotional, psychic, spiritual metabolizing that’s happening. So when we’re not getting restorative sleep, nothing’s getting metabolized. Well, my life, my relationships, my career I’m pursuing, my fears, my hopes, none of it, along with the

Jewel Zimmer (25:20.628)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:36.527)
the detox and the heavy metals and whatever else it might be. So it does, it goes beyond just a physical thing. It’s, this time is so sacred. There’s so much that needs to happen during this time, mind, body and spirit.

Jewel Zimmer (25:52.053)
So sacred. Like I always used to be that person who was like, I don’t need to sleep, especially working in a restaurant all those years. mean, you don’t even get off until the next day, you know, like, and culture era too. You’re not prioritizing sleep, right? And now it’s like, I just cannot wait to get into bed and do that work.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (25:59.414)
gross.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (26:05.091)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (26:15.061)
yeah, yeah. It’s everything. There’s so much that’s happening there. And in depth psychology, we pay a lot of attention to dreams, not in a prophetic way, but our dreams are literally the unconscious in its most raw. And so there is always communication coming through in our dreams, but when sleep is disrupted or actually when we’re medicating ourselves and not able to get into the appropriate level of sleep, dreams aren’t able to come.

Jewel Zimmer (26:16.744)
I can’t yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (26:24.436)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (26:30.547)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (26:43.853)
through. So it’s really powerful. It’s like we’re not just medicating the body, we’re medicating the mind and we’re shutting down a lot of processes.

Jewel Zimmer (26:44.948)
Yeah.

you.

Jewel Zimmer (26:54.098)
Yeah, it’s so fascinating. have a 13 year old and she saw something really scary about two months ago on like a movie. And she hasn’t been able to sleep since then. I mean, it’s been like traumatizing her. And so we’ve started doing this work where, mean, she does take sleep gummies and they help her to fall asleep. But I’m trying to explain to her, this is her subconscious that we have to also work on and this happens when you’re sleeping. So she has to journal every

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:02.478)
Mm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:08.175)
Mm.

Jewel Zimmer (27:24.102)
night before she takes the sleep gummy to program her subconscious she takes the sleep gummy she goes to sleep and then the second she wakes up and she’s so good at now she has to journal right away again. And it’s like helping her retrain like to feel safe in sleep and all the amazing things that happened while she was sleeping.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:35.844)
I love that! Amazing!

Leigh Ann Lindsey (27:46.123)
Yeah, my god, I could take us down a whole tangent.

Jewel Zimmer (27:47.435)
And the gummies help facilitate that for somebody who’s scared to fall asleep or too anxious to fall asleep or whatever it is. I’ve been doing, I mean, I didn’t even realize it, but my five-year-old, a similar thing to the other day, she’s like, I don’t want to go to sleep because I always have bad dreams. And I go, oh, well, I got something for you. We just have to think about really positive, happy things right before bed, and then your dreams are great. And so we went through a

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:16.175)
you

Jewel Zimmer (28:18.108)
visualization of like being at Disneyland, seeing the princesses, riding her favorite rides and the next morning I walked in she she popped right up and she goes mommy you’re so right I had great dreams they were so happy and I was like all right right huh she’s so lucky because she’s just five and she’s already learning how to like reprogram her subconscious before bed

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:36.879)
That’s so sweet.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (28:43.864)
Yeah.

Completely it’s so sweet. What a level and for me, you know, it’s all about relationship when we She’s going into relationship with herself and it’s your subconscious isn’t here to sabotage you It’s here to just communicate but it’s a two-way dialogue. And so how do I show up? How do I go into relationship with myself when my subconscious starts communicating heavy things or hard things or scary things? Do I try and numb it out and medicated away or do I maybe lean in and go hey?

listening and also like here’s some really nourishing uplifting content I’ll give you too. So I love that. That’s so sweet. And I promise I won’t like digress us into a whole depth psychology conversation.

Jewel Zimmer (29:19.562)
Yeah.

you

I’m very fascinated about what you know about dreams. mean, like one of the things that comes up, mean, yeah, we formulate these products to optimize certain symptoms in the body, digestion, where I know we’re going to get into the enzymes. And they’re so helpful. They’re life changing. Like our sleep gummies, know, helping you get to that point where you can enjoy that sleep. But sometimes I wish that we could, you know, bottle up very easy things like

Breathing, breath work.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (29:55.497)
my god, yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (29:56.628)
meditation, exercise, and this like truly like this true relationship with self because these are things that you can’t bottle up. And so this is why it’s so important for us to come on and have these conversations with you because it’s at that point that we can start to share with our community what it truly means to be well. Yeah, we always say that, you know, and we have a supplement brand, but we always say that wellness is more than the supplement

Leigh Ann Lindsey (30:19.672)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (30:26.601)
you take. It’s the food you’re putting in your body. It’s the environment you surround yourself with and it’s also your community. It’s who you surround yourself with and it’s all so important if not the most important is that community that you’re surrounding yourself with.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (30:47.041)
Yeah, you know what you’re making me think is, I put up a post a long time ago, but it was something like, you can’t out supplement fear. You can’t out sauna anger. You you can’t out ice bath grief.

Jewel Zimmer (31:01.269)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (31:01.295)
And it’s interesting because I do think that we can use supplements in a way that’s very emotionally bypassing and maybe even dismissive. Because again, you know the work I do. It’s all about the relationship with me, myself, and I am my psyche, my soul. And so if we’re having anxiety that’s causing us not to sleep and we’re just even taking supplements, maybe not even medications, it’s, am I actually tending that anxious part?

Or am I turning to her and being like, hey girl, I see you’re anxious. I actually don’t want to hear about it. Can you just take the supplement so you can go to sleep? And then there’s a way though that we can use supplements that is very tending and nourishing. Exactly. It’s not a supplement for self-tending and psychic tending and, spiritual tending. It’s

Jewel Zimmer (31:36.371)
Yeah, yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (31:43.551)
Well, it’s supposed to be a supplement. It’s like in the word, you know? It’s not supposed to be a

Jewel Zimmer (31:53.259)
Yeah, it’s not a replacement.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (31:55.919)
It’s in addition to, and I actually think what an amazing symbiotic thing when I can go, oh, I’m having a hard time sleeping. This is a really lovely nourishing supplement. And I’m also going to make sure that I’m sitting down with those parts.

I’m dialoguing with them and I’m asking, is there something you need beyond this supplement too? But how amazing to have something that’s really impactful and nourishing and non-toxic to be able to aid in that dialogue and relationship with the self.

Jewel Zimmer (32:24.787)
Exactly.

Exactly. that leads to the digestion too. You can’t heal and nourish your gut just by taking a supplement. you can then go and eat Chick-fil-A every day. you have to work on both sides. Like you have to eat nourishing foods and supplement with the proper products to truly find that healing within your body.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (32:51.119)
Yeah, yeah, I can’t help myself. I always have to go down these paths. So I do want to circle back really quickly too, because you said something that really caught my ear. So you guys use a natural plant-based melatonin. Most companies are using synthetic melatonin. I’ve actually never heard this before. Can we get into this a little bit deeper?

Jewel Zimmer (32:55.707)
you

Jewel Zimmer (32:59.787)
less.

Jewel Zimmer (33:12.585)
Yeah, so there’s lots of foods that have naturally occurring melatonin in them. Tart cherry is one of them, which is also in our gummies. Pistachios are one. Tomatoes actually are one. And St. John’s wort actually has a lot of melatonin in it. So we extract our melatonin from St. John’s wort. So we have a patented process that we use. Our manufacturer has a patented process. And so you don’t get any of the other constitutes from the St. John’s wort.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:42.511)
Mm.

Jewel Zimmer (33:42.523)
specifically the melatonin, which is really important because a lot of people taking certain medications, especially things like SSRIs, St. John’s wort can have contraindications.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:52.033)
Okay, indications.

Jewel Zimmer (33:56.173)
So we don’t it doesn’t have that it’s strictly just the melatonin Yeah, and it works anything that’s plant-based is going to work in the body very different than something synthetic, right? Because it is going to open up those receptors in our bodies recognize plants versus chemicals. Yeah

Leigh Ann Lindsey (33:59.981)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:11.147)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, my hunch would be that it makes it more bioavailable within the body rather than the synthetics.

Jewel Zimmer (34:18.028)
Exactly. Yeah. Just a very, very small dose. It’s 0.3 milligrams. So it’s under half a milligram and it almost works homeopathic. Like a homeopathic. Homeopathic. Homeopathic remedy, right? Where it’s just like, it’s just giving your body enough. It’s introducing it to the compounds so that your body then starts producing exactly what it needs. So it’s literally the Goldilocks fit every single night for every

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:30.809)
homeopathic.

Jewel Zimmer (34:47.992)
single person.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (34:49.163)
Yeah, that is such a powerful point, right? Because I actually think when we’re overdosing on something like melatonin, the body just shuts down its own natural production because it’s like, whoa, OK, we definitely have more than we need. Why would I need to produce more?

Jewel Zimmer (35:04.108)
Yeah, and that’s why so many people don’t like sleep supplements because so many of them are pumped with a bunch of melatonin and they’re like, I don’t want to take that. Sleep supplements don’t work for me. I always wake up in a fog and groggy and then I have a bad day at work and can’t think. Yeah, because melatonin makes you tired, right? It tells your body that it’s time to sleep. And so if you’re taking too much of it, then that’s why you’re going to wake up groggy.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (35:12.94)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (35:19.011)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (35:28.909)
Okay, this was gonna be my question is what do you guys think the grogginess is coming from? And so it’s that really overdosing of melatonin.

Jewel Zimmer (35:36.673)
Yeah, exactly. It’s an overproduction for sure. Yeah, maybe not getting enough of that level three deep sleep too. that’s also, we mentioned when our brain cleans itself, but it’s also in our cells renew and that also includes our skin cells. And so you actually, if you’re not getting enough of that level three deep sleep, you wake up looking older.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (35:45.101)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (36:04.255)
Yeah, totally. Haggard. Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (36:05.26)
Tired. Tired. tired. Tired. You look tired. How can people see that you’re tired? It’s because of that. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (36:14.059)
Mm-hmm, completely. Okay, I love that. And that was one product that I really wanted to make sure we got into because I loved it. So many of us here love it. We have so many clients who are loving it. Clearly, everyone is loving it because it’s your best-selling product. So that needed its own airspace.

Jewel Zimmer (36:29.68)
Yeah, and because it doesn’t have any sugar, it won’t break a fast. So for those people who like to intermittent fast, it won’t affect it. It won’t. It completely keeps the blood sugar stable.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (36:42.179)
That is good to know, because you guys know we’re big on Prolon here. And we’re doing a group fast, I think, next week on the 11th. We’re starting another big group fast with everyone. So I know that’ll be really fun.

Jewel Zimmer (36:45.195)
Yes.

Jewel Zimmer (36:51.308)
Amazing. Yeah, so you can continue to take the sleep gummies and if you wanted to the smart burn gummies, because the same thing, we’ve taken out the sugar and we’ve replaced the sugar with allulose, which is a prebiotic fiber. So it actually works to not only diversify the microbiome, but to keep the blood sugar locked in.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (37:02.659)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (37:08.899)
stable. Yeah. Okay. So let’s get into gut health. We’ve already established, and I think most of the listeners were already have a really good sense of how important gut health is. It’s the foundation of so much.

I think all of your products work into gut health anyways, but you do have the gut therapy supplement and then you have the digestive enzymes. I’d love to start with the digestive enzymes because this is also one that I’ve taken. You guys were so, so sweet to gift me some of your products. And I took those and I was like, okay, whoa, these really work so much better than anything else. And I take digestive enzymes pretty frequently for a number of different reasons. So I’ve also tried a lot of different enzymes.

What strikes me so much about yours is it’s got such an intense blend, like I think 15 plus different enzymes, plus probiotics, plus some of these different herbals. So let’s get into all of this. What’s going on in there?

Jewel Zimmer (38:04.843)
Yeah.

talking about how we need to to rename the product because it’s so much more than just digestive enzymes. I think this is like one of Taylor’s ride or die products because she had so many digestive issues so I want her to like fully get into this product but I just want to quickly say it really comes back to like we don’t want to miss an opportunity to make somebody feel better in their digestive health right and so when we’re looking at what digestive enzymes are for and what we’re trying to optimize it’s like we

Leigh Ann Lindsey (38:12.889)
Completely.

Jewel Zimmer (38:36.291)
have to hit every single active pathway in the body so that no matter what’s going on in someone’s life, why they’re having digestive issues, that we’re gonna fix it for them.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (38:40.399)
Mm-mm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (38:47.307)
Yeah, that’s going to address some facet of that.

Jewel Zimmer (38:49.981)
Exactly. And we both truly believe that with the modern diet, even if you’re buying organic and eating healthy, every single person should be taking digestive enzymes. Not only do they help break down your foods you’re digesting more optimal, and that includes red meat, dairy, even salads and vegetables. These can be hard on our digestive tract. Gluten.

So it not only will help break down those foods and those molecules faster so you have optimal digestion but it also helps boost nutrient absorption and on top of that helps practically de-blow on demand. So if you, I take two usually with my biggest meal of the day which is lunch.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (39:29.539)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (39:41.982)
or dinner, but even if I take two with lunch and go out to a dinner and say I have a rich meal, like a steak or mashed potatoes, I’ll take two more. And I, no joke, I just feel so much better when I’m taking my digestive enzymes. My pants are, you know, looser, fit better. It’s like you wake up with like a flatter stomach. You just feel better. You don’t have like the post meal discomfort and gas or bloat.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:01.572)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (40:11.855)
So there there I literally think everyone should be on these I also think they’re so great for skin health because again if you don’t have healthy elimination, it’s going to show up in your skin and That’s you know, no one wants that

Leigh Ann Lindsey (40:28.417)
Yeah, so let’s get into that a little deeper because, Jewel, you talked about how we wanted to address all the pathways of digestion. what are those pathways? How do each of these elements address each of those pathways? You’ve got enzymes, you’ve got probiotics, you’ve got herbals in there.

Jewel Zimmer (40:35.02)
Okay.

Jewel Zimmer (40:46.645)
Yeah, so the enzymes each enzyme has its own job to break down whether it’s fibers carbohydrates gluten protein legumes dairy all of them right and then to help you absorb the nutrients better then we’ve got We’ve got five probiotics in there and one spore based probiotics So the five probiotics are in there to help diversify the my gut microbiome and strengthen the microbiome and then there’s the

based probiotic in there and it’s clinically proven to help with all digestive discomforts. So like you name it like bloating which is why it combats they combat bloat on demand.

nausea, gas, constipation, even if you’ve been traveling and are really ill, they help with that. And what they do, the spore-based probiotic actually colonizes on the inside of the intestinal wall, so it stays there and continues to work. And it actually works to repair the intestinal lining. And a lot of people with digestive issues, it’s because they have leaky gut. And to be honest, I mean, we all have some form of leaky gut these days.

In this in this era we live in because we’re faced with so many chemicals and it’s just Unfortunately, it’s the time it’s the time in the world there since 1976 there’s been 80,000 chemicals that have been introduced 10,000 of those are food and not even 1 % have been tested for health and so our gut our intestines, know, we do we we do everyone has some form of leaky gut because

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:01.476)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:18.095)
That’s insane.

Jewel Zimmer (42:31.029)
Even if we’re eating organically, maybe the farm next to where that grew wasn’t organic. In the air, it’s in our water, it’s everywhere, right? And so it’s really important to strengthen that gut barrier. And then we have these nine amazing botanicals and adaptogens in the formula. those are, they help with detoxification, they help with metabolism, they help. if you have sluggish metabolism and not digesting, that checks out that box.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (42:36.355)
Totally.

Jewel Zimmer (43:00.939)
detoxification issues. have dandelion in there which helps process the toxify the liver to help that metabolism. We have ginger to help with the soothing and the nausea and the bloat. We have lemon balm that does many of those things as well but soothes, de-bloats, peppermint to calm. mean you name it like we just every last thing slippery elm to help to help the constipation. and so no matter what

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:26.655)
Yeah

Jewel Zimmer (43:30.999)
where your digestive issue is coming from, if it’s coming from an intestinal issue, microbiome diversity issue, a lack of eating good foods, you’re gonna find the relief within this product.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (43:45.323)
Yeah, I just love it because I mean, you guys know, we talked about this off air. A lot of my audience and my clients, they’re already on so many supplements as it is. And I think a lot of supplements are addressing things almost too acutely. It’s like this is just an enzyme. All it’s for is breaking down the food. But to your point, that’s one part of

the digestive process. So it might be improving that part, but then there’s all these other pieces. So to be able to have a product that’s multifunctional.

Jewel Zimmer (44:18.316)
Yeah, it replaces your probiotic, it replaces your digestive enzymes, it replaces your deep load. They’re also so good before you go to the dentist or if you were having any type of surgery because we’ve got two fruit enzymes in there as well. We’ve got bromelain from the pineapple core and we’ve got the papain from the papaya and they’re both clinically studied and they help with inflammation. it’s just like you will know

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:35.951)
Mm.

Jewel Zimmer (44:48.28)
no matter what you’re gonna notice and feel a difference. And Taylor and I are all about efficiencies. Like don’t, let’s not go halfway. Let’s not go a little the way. Like we don’t have time for that. Like if we’re gonna do it, we’re all in.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (44:54.049)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (45:01.643)
Yeah, I love it. And again, it’s, I’m guilty of this too, right? Especially because I get so many products sent to me that the supplement cupboard starts to fill up. And at some point you’re like, what, what am I doing? Do I really need all of this? Can this get combined? I’m not being efficient anymore. Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (45:14.412)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (45:21.902)
Well, in a lot of supplements too that I think, you know, we all know, but 30 to 70 % of supplements don’t actually contain in them what they say they do or anything at all. So you have to be so careful with what you’re getting, especially with the gummy form factor. people think, oh, you know, here’s you know, sleep supplement. Oh, they have a gummy, like I’ll get that instead. But you really have to dive in to the active ingredients.

Junas products are third-party tested but there’s certain things that we will never create into a gummy because you can’t get enough of the actives into a gummy to work and then we see them on Amazon as a top seller for some of these other brands we’re like wait no don’t buy that people you can’t get that much impossible collagen or protein or creatine into a gummy like you it’s just not effective and at that point people are just wasting their money we will never put anything out

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:02.338)
Okay.

Jewel Zimmer (46:21.712)
into the market that we personally won’t stand behind, that we personally won’t, you know, we take every single Juno product. There’s not one that I won’t give to even my children. know, my mother went through cancer. Like it’s just so important to us that we have the best of the best ingredients and that they truly are effective and that people are feeling the results from them that are intended.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:33.998)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:50.009)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (46:51.456)
Yeah, we’ve put a lot of money into testing. A lot, a lot of money. We test every single ingredient. It’s so expensive.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (46:55.885)
And it’s expensive. That is expensive.

Jewel Zimmer (47:00.044)
It’s so expensive. We test every single ingredient that comes in and then we test all the final formulas. So we obviously like the first round of testing that we do. We have to approve the formula and make sure it’s got enough of the nutrients in it, whatever the standardization is that we’re going for in order for it to be considered to be used in our formula. And then especially with the gummies. mean, gummies are they’re cooked at all different temperatures throughout the process. Some ingredients can handle it, some can’t.

You have to be adding these ingredients at very specific times.

we make sure that the gummy is tested at all different. We pull out the gummy at every single stage of the cooking process and then post when it’s done cooking, even several months after to make sure that the exact amount of that active ingredient is in there or upwards of 10%. It can never be below or it just will never pass. Yeah. And we’ve made that very clear to our manufacturers.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:56.238)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (47:59.649)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, well, it’s so powerful. The only brands I have on are brands that are doing taking the initiative to do this testing because so many brands aren’t doing that. They’re going, I’m making something random up. Turmeric’s a hot topic right now. Like, let’s let’s slap just enough turmeric into this product to be able to put it on the ingredients label. But it’s not actually an efficacious dose of anything.

And consumers aren’t, it’s not the consumer’s fault. You we need to, this is why I have guests like you on to be able to educate us on supplements and how things are being created and what’s efficacious and what’s not. But most of us don’t understand just because it says it on the label doesn’t mean it’s a high enough dose to do anything or the right format of it or that it’s even in there at all.

Jewel Zimmer (48:51.745)
Yeah, I think customers are getting a lot more savvy too. think, yeah, I think things are going to be changing a lot. Our customers, I mean, we talk to our customers pretty frequently. We have some customers that have had over 40 orders with us. So, and that’s just one product. That’s just like the sleep gummy or just the digestive enzymes. And they’ve become so savvy that if they do, if they are curious about another product, they’ll run it through ChatGPT.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:06.988)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:21.942)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (49:22.767)
you know, and be like, this enough of anything that’s beneficial to me? Like, is this worth my $100? Because that’s what supplements, some supplements are costing these days, right? Especially like the beauty, the ingestible beauty products. So yeah, I think customers are definitely becoming more savvy. And there’s also a great new app out there that’s just starting to gain some traction called Supco. And yeah, and you can start to scan your supplements and, you know, see

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:29.047)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:46.714)
okay.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:50.862)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (49:52.674)
how they’ve rated them and they’re rated by third party tests, they’re rated by what’s actually in the products, the quality. Yeah, sign up for their emails too. I think Dr. Hyman’s one of the investors around the board. But their emails, we even share them back and forth. They did one on creatine. tested how many? I don’t even know how many creatine. brands. Yeah, they tested 20 creatine brands and more than

Leigh Ann Lindsey (49:57.491)
that’s cool. I’m writing that down.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:07.457)
Okay.

Jewel Zimmer (50:22.577)
50 % of them totally failed. yeah, mean, yeah, yeah. No, it totally is. And it’s so helpful. Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:25.146)
my gosh. So it’s like the EWG app, but for supplements.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (50:32.843)
Yeah, that’s awesome. That’s such a great resource for the audience and me. I’m going to write that down. Okay, so let’s move on to, like I said, we could go, we could spend like 20 minutes on every single product. So I really wanted to make sure we talked about my two favorites and then your newest product that I haven’t even tried yet. So this is what I want to get into is Smart Burn. Tell us about this. What is it? What is it support? How is it different from everything else that’s out there?

Jewel Zimmer (51:01.219)
Well, with all of our products, we always start with the problem. And when we found out that 93 % of Americans were metabolically unhealthy, we knew that we had to look into it. And the deeper that we looked into it, we realized how

much more metabolic wellness is. I think when people hear metabolism, they think weight loss, and it’s so much more than that. So we definitely went on a deep dive there. And I think it also was kind of during this shift of when everyone was talking or starting to talk about GLP-1s and what actually is metabolic wellness and what does it actually entail? Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:25.548)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:43.235)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (51:47.409)
we actually started formulating this product in 2022. So I know, so it’s been in the works for a long, long time. And even back in 2022, we were thinking, we were reading a lot about GLP-1 and how it was really changing the game for people with blood sugar that wasn’t stabilized.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (51:51.607)
Wow.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:08.729)
Mm-hmm.

Jewel Zimmer (52:09.552)
and helping with that stabilization and speeding up the metabolism or maybe not even speeding it up but just really stabilizing it, helping with satiety. And we researched all…

of ingredients and it was really important because this category is kind of controversial in this day and age and also really trending. wanted to make sure that every single ingredient just like our other products had the clinical

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:31.219)
huh.

Jewel Zimmer (52:41.55)
the clinical data to back it up. And so we have three hero ingredients in there. And I don’t even know which one is my favorite at this point. They’re all trademarked. They’re all clinically studied. There’s one called Slimbiotics that I call a next gen postbiotic. I don’t know if you know what postbiotics are. for those of sort of those listeners that don’t know, it’s a probiotic that’s been heat treated and it acts different, responds differently within the microbiome.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (52:44.014)
Mm-hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (53:00.963)
Huh? Okay, yeah, yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (53:12.493)
And this post biotic does so many amazing things. It actually does activate GLP-1. It to help with satiety, it helps with body composition, and it just helps diversify the microbiome to be more healthy. We also have something in there called calorie burn, which is a grains of paradise. So yeah, like Taylor said, they’re all clinically, they’re all trademarked and have clinical data behind them. And the calorie burn helps

boost your speed up your calorie burn by five times within two hours and it has of a spicy taste to it that’s so delicious and addicting. Very thermogenic. Yeah. Yes, thermogenic. So there’s that and then there’s something called Inoslim which is a proprietary blend of astragulus and panics ginseng and panics ginseng. Taylor and I have both fallen in love with that adaptogen for different

Leigh Ann Lindsey (53:47.0)
my gosh, wow.

Jewel Zimmer (54:11.26)
reasons, but it works within the microbiome, it works within your blood sugar, it works, your metabolic health is also around triglyceride and cholesterol, it works on those, it activates your AMPK, which is your master metabolic switch. And this is so important for women because as we age, our AMPK actually starts to down regulate. And when our AMPK down regulates, it starts disrupting our sleep even more, it starts disrupting

Leigh Ann Lindsey (54:33.443)
Mmm.

Jewel Zimmer (54:41.22)
our hormones, our mood. And so like even if you weren’t even thinking about trying to boost your metabolism, boost your metabolism, speed your calories or activate your GLP-1 or whatever it is, like every single woman should be taking this to activate their AMPK, like period, no questions asked. Like none, like everyone.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (55:02.831)
I love it. Yeah, it’s funny because I can think of like, you know, two or three other brands out there that have a metabolic product. And so it is it is kind of like a hot, a hot topic. But to your point, it goes so far beyond weight loss and all the things that metabolism is affecting. And it sounds like kind of to the point we’ve made with other products in your line.

Jewel Zimmer (55:21.967)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (55:29.891)
There’s not just the one facet. There’s what are all the facets? What are all the pathways in metabolism? And are we making sure we’re hitting all those different pathways? And how is Juna doing that differently? And to be honest, I really haven’t taken metabolic products by anyone. So this is one that I can’t really compare or contrast it to with some other things that are out there.

Jewel Zimmer (55:35.812)
Yeah.

Jewel Zimmer (55:53.476)
Well, if you like the gummies, you’ll definitely like the Smart Burn. They are the gummy form factor. They taste amazing. They have like a tropical citrus flavor with a zing because of the calorie burn from the grains of paradise. There’s also apple cider vinegar, MCT, and I love to take it prior to a workout because I think with anything, I’m always looking to optimize what I’m already doing. So I eat healthy, but I take the digestive enzymes to

Leigh Ann Lindsey (55:57.999)
I

Jewel Zimmer (56:23.604)
to that and I work out but I take the smart burn right before I workout to optimize my workout to boost my calorie burn.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (56:44.75)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (56:59.832)
Everything works better.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:15.277)
Right.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:24.152)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:39.663)
Hmm.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:52.342)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (57:59.395)
Yeah.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (58:04.277)
Yeah, I love that. I know as you’re saying it, I’m like, okay, so this might be a good sort of midday supplement for me. Because what you’re saying with that energy where it’s sort of like now everything’s working more efficiently that midday when that kind of sleepiness starts to hit or that tiredness or that fatigue, this could be a good midday instead of my second flat white.

Right, right, right, right, right.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (58:40.023)
I know you walk together, you get your nails done together.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (58:56.719)
Yeah, yeah, no completely. It’s not like a pick me up, I’m dropping, but if it’s helping us use energy even better, you know, that, yeah, exactly.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (59:12.844)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, my gosh, I’m so excited to pick it up and try it. I’m actually wondering if we stock that here. Do we do? I know, and we have the chlorophyll and the enzymes, so much fun stuff. Anything that we didn’t, I mean, there’s so much we didn’t cover that we could, but anything really important that you guys wanna make sure we mention for the audience.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:00:36.729)
Bye guys.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:00:45.967)
and a scent and organic tree and all our favorite little local markets for sure. Yeah, the ecology center. think you guys. Yeah, you could have a game like how many places can you find June at in SoCal?

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, and I’ll make sure everything’s linked in the show notes too, so it’ll be really easy for people to reach out. Well, this was so fun. Thank you guys so much.

Like I said, we’ve…

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:01:25.323)
boy.

Leigh Ann Lindsey (01:01:29.081)
my gosh, mean, yeah, I could talk about that ad nauseam just all day, nonstop, nothing else. So it’s so much fun. Yeah.